From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>
Cc: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Ricardo Martins <ricardo.martins.br@gmail.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: KVM Processor cache size
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:36:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C57566D.7000007@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C5749C6.8010901@amd.com>
On 08/02/2010 05:42 PM, Andre Przywara wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 08/02/2010 08:49 AM, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
>>> glibc uses the cache size information returned by cpuid to perform
>>> optimizations. For instance, copy operations which would pollute too
>>> much of the cache because they are large will use non-temporal
>>> instructions. There are real performance benefits.
>>
>> I imagine that there would be real performance problems from doing
>> live migration with -cpu host too if we don't guarantee these values
>> remain stable across migration...
> Again, -cpu host is not meant to be migrated.
Then it needs to prevent migration from happening. Otherwise, it's a
bug waiting to happen.
> There are other virtualization use cases than cloud-like server
> virtualization. Sometimes users don't care about migration (or even
> the live version), but want full CPU exposure for performance reasons
> (think of virtualizing Windows on a Linux desktop).
> I agree that -cpu host and migration should be addressed, but only to
> a certain degree. And missing migration experience should not be a
> road blocker for -cpu host.
When we can reasonably prevent it, we should prevent users from shooting
themselves in the foot. Honestly, I think -cpu host is exactly what you
would want to use in a cloud. A lot of private clouds and even public
clouds are largely based on homogenous hardware.
I actually think the case where you want to migrate between heterogenous
hardware is grossly overstated.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> Regards,
> Andre.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-02 23:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-02 11:45 KVM Processor cache size Ricardo Martins
2010-08-02 12:51 ` Andre Przywara
2010-08-02 13:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-02 22:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-02 22:35 ` Andre Przywara
2010-08-02 23:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 5:38 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 5:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-02 22:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-02 22:54 ` Andre Przywara
2010-08-02 23:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 5:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-02 13:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-08-02 18:38 ` Ricardo Martins
2010-08-02 22:24 ` Andre Przywara
2010-08-02 22:15 ` Andre Przywara
2010-08-02 22:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-02 22:42 ` Andre Przywara
2010-08-02 23:36 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-08-03 6:25 ` Dor Laor
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