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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"gleb@redhat.com" <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Disable GUEST_INTR_STATE_STI flag before injecting NMI to guest on VMX
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:50:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C77DEBB.9040801@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C77C812.4040103@siemens.com>

  On 08/27/2010 05:13 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>
>> I forgot them already.  What was that, exception during IRET?
> Exception during IRET or any instruction under the interrupt shadow will
> push the TF we set to step over this issue on the guest stack. We do not
> intercept all the possible exceptions, so we can leak TF. Moreover,
> multiplexing TF users is currently imperfect on AMD but, before fixing
> that, we have to think about the approach in general.

Thanks.  I think those are all solvable.  The key IMO is to take a state 
based approach to host bits - instead of setting or clearing a bit in 
response to an event, use the event as a trigger for recalculation of 
the bit's value.  This works for bits which have multiple uses, and for 
recovery from KVM_SET_*.  For guest bits which are needed by the host we 
also have a working approach - when the bit is overloaded, trap all 
instructions that can see it, as in CR0.TS.

It may take some work but I think we can achieve 100% accuracy without 
making the code unmaintainable.

>> I'd really like to avoid the timer.  But I forgot all the details around
>> this, I'll have to re-learn them so I can actually compare the two options.
>>
> Hope the above helps you to get on track, otherwise drop more questions.
> Also putting Joerg on CC (in the futile hope that the longer the CC list
> is, the lesser the pain becomes for each individual).

I think I got it.  And I also think we need to start documenting these 
invariants, to make it easier for people to see the method in all that 
chaos.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-27 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-26 20:06 [PATCH 0/1] Disable GUEST_INTR_STATE_STI flag before injecting NMI to VMX guest Jes.Sorensen
2010-08-26 20:06 ` [PATCH 1/1] Disable GUEST_INTR_STATE_STI flag before injecting NMI to guest on VMX Jes.Sorensen
2010-08-27  8:27   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27  8:31     ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-27  8:39       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27  9:46         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-27 11:06           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 13:58             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-27 14:13               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 15:50                 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-08-27 16:43                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-29  8:09                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-27  9:44     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-27 11:06       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 13:54         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-27 14:12           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 11:16       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-27 11:23         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 11:25           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-27 11:04     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-27 11:09       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27  9:21   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-27  9:41     ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-27  9:47       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-27  9:56         ` Jes Sorensen
2010-08-27  9:59           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-27 10:01             ` Jes Sorensen

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