From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [KVM timekeeping 10/35] Fix deep C-state TSC desynchronization
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:26:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C8FF690.7030107@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C8FCDE2.3000202@redhat.com>
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Am 14.09.2010 21:32, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> On 09/14/2010 12:40 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Am 14.09.2010 11:27, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/14/2010 11:10 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 20.08.2010 10:07, Zachary Amsden wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When CPUs with unstable TSCs enter deep C-state, TSC may stop
>>>>> running. This causes us to require resynchronization. Since
>>>>> we can't tell when this may potentially happen, we assume the
>>>>> worst by forcing re-compensation for it at every point the VCPU
>>>>> task is descheduled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Zachary Amsden<zamsden@redhat.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 2 +-
>>>>> 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
>>>>> index 7fc4a55..52b6c21 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
>>>>> @@ -1866,7 +1866,7 @@ void kvm_arch_vcpu_load(struct kvm_vcpu
>>>>> *vcpu, int cpu)
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> kvm_x86_ops->vcpu_load(vcpu, cpu);
>>>>> - if (unlikely(vcpu->cpu != cpu)) {
>>>>> + if (unlikely(vcpu->cpu != cpu) || check_tsc_unstable()) {
>>>>> /* Make sure TSC doesn't go backwards */
>>>>> s64 tsc_delta = !vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc ? 0 :
>>>>> native_read_tsc() - vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc;
>>>>>
>>>> For yet unknown reason, this commit breaks Linux guests here if they
>>>> are
>>>> started with only a single VCPU. They hang during boot, obviously no
>>>> longer receiving interrupts.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using kvm-kmod against a 2.6.34 host kernel, so this may be a side
>>>> effect of the wrapping, though I cannot imagine how.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Most likely, time went backwards, and some 'future - past' calculation
>>> resulted in a negative sleep value which was then interpreted as
>>> unsigned and resulted in a 2342525634 year sleep.
>>>
>> Looks like that's the case on first glance at the apic state.
>>
>
> This compensation effectively nulls the delta between current and last TSC:
>
> if (unlikely(vcpu->cpu != cpu) || check_tsc_unstable()) {
> /* Make sure TSC doesn't go backwards */
> s64 tsc_delta = !vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc ? 0 :
> native_read_tsc() -
> vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc;
> if (tsc_delta < 0)
> mark_tsc_unstable("KVM discovered backwards TSC");
> if (check_tsc_unstable())
> kvm_x86_ops->adjust_tsc_offset(vcpu, -tsc_delta);
> kvm_migrate_timers(vcpu);
> vcpu->cpu = cpu;
>
> If TSC has advanced quite a bit due to a TSC jump during sleep(*), it
> will adjust the offset backwards to compensate; similarly, if it has
> gone backwards, it will advance the offset.
>
> In neither case should the visible TSC go backwards, assuming
> last_host_tsc is recorded properly, and so kvmclock should be similarly
> unaffected.
>
> Perhaps the guest is more intelligent than we hope, and is comparing two
> different clocks: kvmclock or TSC with the rate of PIT interrupts. This
> could result in negative arithmetic begin interpreted as unsigned. Are
> you using PIT interrupt reinjection on this guest or passing
> -no-kvm-pit-reinjection?
>
>>
>>> Does your guest use kvmclock, tsc, or some other time source?
>>>
>> A kernel that has kvmclock support even hangs in SMP mode. The others
>> pick hpet or acpi_pm. TSC is considered unstable.
>>
>
> SMP mode here has always and will always be unreliable. Are you running
> on an Intel or AMD CPU? The origin of this code comes from a workaround
> for (*) in vendor-specific code, and perhaps it is inappropriate for both.
I'm on a fairly new Intel i7 (M 620). And I accidentally rebooted my box
a few hours ago. Well, the issue is gone now...
So I looked into the system logs and found this:
[18446744053.434939] PM: resume of devices complete after 4379.595 msecs
[18446744053.457133] PM: Finishing wakeup.
[18446744053.457135] Restarting tasks ...
[ 0.000999] Marking TSC unstable due to KVM discovered backwards TSC
[270103.974668] done.
From that point on the box was on hpet, including the time I did the
failing tests this morning. The kvm-kmod version loaded at this point
was based on kvm.git df549cfc.
But my /proc/cpuinfo claims "constant_tsc", and Linux is generally happy
with using it as clock source. Does this tell you anything?
Jan
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-20 8:07 KVM timekeeping and TSC virtualization Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 01/35] Drop vm_init_tsc Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 16:54 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 02/35] Convert TSC writes to TSC offset writes Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 03/35] Move TSC offset writes to common code Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:06 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24 0:51 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 04/35] Fix SVM VMCB reset Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 05/35] Move TSC reset out of vmcb_init Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:08 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24 0:52 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 06/35] TSC reset compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 07/35] Make cpu_tsc_khz updates use local CPU Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 08/35] Warn about unstable TSC Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:28 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24 0:56 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 09/35] Unify TSC logic Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 10/35] Fix deep C-state TSC desynchronization Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:30 ` Glauber Costa
2010-09-14 9:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-14 9:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-14 10:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-14 10:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-14 19:32 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-14 22:26 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2010-09-14 23:40 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-15 5:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-15 7:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 8:04 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-15 12:29 ` Glauber Costa
2010-09-15 4:07 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-15 8:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-15 12:32 ` Glauber Costa
2010-09-15 18:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-17 22:09 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-17 22:31 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-18 23:53 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 11/35] Add helper functions for time computation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:34 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24 0:58 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 12/35] Robust TSC compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:40 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24 1:01 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-24 21:33 ` Daniel Verkamp
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 13/35] Perform hardware_enable in CPU_STARTING callback Zachary Amsden
2010-08-27 16:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 23:43 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-30 9:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 14/35] Add clock sync request to hardware enable Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 15/35] Move scale_delta into common header Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 16/35] Fix a possible backwards warp of kvmclock Zachary Amsden
2011-09-02 18:34 ` Philipp Hahn
2011-09-05 14:06 ` [BUG, PATCH-2.6.32] " Philipp Hahn
2011-09-12 11:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 17/35] Implement getnsboottime kernel API Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 18:39 ` john stultz
2010-08-20 23:37 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-21 0:02 ` john stultz
2010-08-21 0:52 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-21 1:04 ` john stultz
2010-08-21 1:22 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-27 18:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 23:48 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-30 18:07 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 18/35] Use getnsboottime in KVM Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 19/35] Add timekeeping documentation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:50 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 20/35] Make math work for other scales Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 21/35] Track max tsc_khz Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 22/35] Track tsc last write in vcpu Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 23/35] Set initial TSC rate conversion factors Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 24/35] Timer request function renaming Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode Zachary Amsden
2010-08-25 17:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25 20:48 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-25 22:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25 23:38 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-26 0:17 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 26/35] Catchup slower TSC to guest rate Zachary Amsden
2010-09-07 3:44 ` Dong, Eddie
2010-09-07 22:14 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 27/35] Add TSC trapping Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 28/35] Unstable TSC write compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 29/35] TSC overrun protection Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 30/35] IOCTL for setting TSC rate Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:56 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-21 16:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 31/35] Exit conditions for TSC trapping Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 32/35] Entry " Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 33/35] Indicate reliable TSC in kvmclock Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:45 ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24 1:14 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 34/35] Remove dead code Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 35/35] Add some debug stuff Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 13:26 ` KVM timekeeping and TSC virtualization David S. Ahern
2010-08-20 23:24 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-22 1:32 ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-24 1:44 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-24 3:04 ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-24 5:47 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-24 13:32 ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-24 23:01 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-25 16:55 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25 20:32 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-24 22:13 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25 4:04 ` Zachary Amsden
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