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From: Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [KVM timekeeping 10/35] Fix deep C-state TSC desynchronization
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:40:34 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C9007F2.9020205@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C8FF690.7030107@web.de>

On 09/14/2010 12:26 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Am 14.09.2010 21:32, Zachary Amsden wrote:
>    
>> On 09/14/2010 12:40 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>      
>>> Am 14.09.2010 11:27, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>>     On 09/14/2010 11:10 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Am 20.08.2010 10:07, Zachary Amsden wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> When CPUs with unstable TSCs enter deep C-state, TSC may stop
>>>>>> running.  This causes us to require resynchronization.  Since
>>>>>> we can't tell when this may potentially happen, we assume the
>>>>>> worst by forcing re-compensation for it at every point the VCPU
>>>>>> task is descheduled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Zachary Amsden<zamsden@redhat.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>     arch/x86/kvm/x86.c |    2 +-
>>>>>>     1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
>>>>>> index 7fc4a55..52b6c21 100644
>>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
>>>>>> @@ -1866,7 +1866,7 @@ void kvm_arch_vcpu_load(struct kvm_vcpu
>>>>>> *vcpu, int cpu)
>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         kvm_x86_ops->vcpu_load(vcpu, cpu);
>>>>>> -    if (unlikely(vcpu->cpu != cpu)) {
>>>>>> +    if (unlikely(vcpu->cpu != cpu) || check_tsc_unstable()) {
>>>>>>             /* Make sure TSC doesn't go backwards */
>>>>>>             s64 tsc_delta = !vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc ? 0 :
>>>>>>                     native_read_tsc() - vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>> For yet unknown reason, this commit breaks Linux guests here if they
>>>>> are
>>>>> started with only a single VCPU. They hang during boot, obviously no
>>>>> longer receiving interrupts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using kvm-kmod against a 2.6.34 host kernel, so this may be a side
>>>>> effect of the wrapping, though I cannot imagine how.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> Most likely, time went backwards, and some 'future - past' calculation
>>>> resulted in a negative sleep value which was then interpreted as
>>>> unsigned and resulted in a 2342525634 year sleep.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Looks like that's the case on first glance at the apic state.
>>>
>>>        
>> This compensation effectively nulls the delta between current and last TSC:
>>
>>          if (unlikely(vcpu->cpu != cpu) || check_tsc_unstable()) {
>>                  /* Make sure TSC doesn't go backwards */
>>                  s64 tsc_delta = !vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc ? 0 :
>>                                  native_read_tsc() -
>> vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc;
>>                  if (tsc_delta<  0)
>>                          mark_tsc_unstable("KVM discovered backwards TSC");
>>                  if (check_tsc_unstable())
>>                          kvm_x86_ops->adjust_tsc_offset(vcpu, -tsc_delta);
>>                  kvm_migrate_timers(vcpu);
>>                  vcpu->cpu = cpu;
>>
>> If TSC has advanced quite a bit due to a TSC jump during sleep(*), it
>> will adjust the offset backwards to compensate; similarly, if it has
>> gone backwards, it will advance the offset.
>>
>> In neither case should the visible TSC go backwards, assuming
>> last_host_tsc is recorded properly, and so kvmclock should be similarly
>> unaffected.
>>
>> Perhaps the guest is more intelligent than we hope, and is comparing two
>> different clocks: kvmclock or TSC with the rate of PIT interrupts.  This
>> could result in negative arithmetic begin interpreted as unsigned.  Are
>> you using PIT interrupt reinjection on this guest or passing
>> -no-kvm-pit-reinjection?
>>
>>      
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Does your guest use kvmclock, tsc, or some other time source?
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> A kernel that has kvmclock support even hangs in SMP mode. The others
>>> pick hpet or acpi_pm. TSC is considered unstable.
>>>
>>>        
>> SMP mode here has always and will always be unreliable.  Are you running
>> on an Intel or AMD CPU?  The origin of this code comes from a workaround
>> for (*) in vendor-specific code, and perhaps it is inappropriate for both.
>>      
> I'm on a fairly new Intel i7 (M 620). And I accidentally rebooted my box
> a few hours ago. Well, the issue is gone now...
>
> So I looked into the system logs and found this:
>
> [18446744053.434939] PM: resume of devices complete after 4379.595 msecs
> [18446744053.457133] PM: Finishing wakeup.
> [18446744053.457135] Restarting tasks ...
> [    0.000999] Marking TSC unstable due to KVM discovered backwards TSC
> [270103.974668] done.
>
>  From that point on the box was on hpet, including the time I did the
> failing tests this morning. The kvm-kmod version loaded at this point
> was based on kvm.git df549cfc.
>
> But my /proc/cpuinfo claims "constant_tsc", and Linux is generally happy
> with using it as clock source. Does this tell you anything?
>    

Yes, quite a bit.

It's possible that marking the TSC unstable with an actively running VM 
causes a boundary condition that I had not accounted for.  It's also 
possible that the clocksource switch triggered some bad behavior.

This suggests two debugging techniques: I can manually switch the 
clocksource, and I can also load a module which does nothing other than 
mark the TSC unstable.  Failing that, we can investigate PM suspend / 
resume for possible issues.

I'll try this on my Intel boxes to see what happens.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-14 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-20  8:07 KVM timekeeping and TSC virtualization Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 01/35] Drop vm_init_tsc Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 16:54   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 02/35] Convert TSC writes to TSC offset writes Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 03/35] Move TSC offset writes to common code Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:06   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  0:51     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 04/35] Fix SVM VMCB reset Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 05/35] Move TSC reset out of vmcb_init Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:08   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  0:52     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 06/35] TSC reset compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 07/35] Make cpu_tsc_khz updates use local CPU Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 08/35] Warn about unstable TSC Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:28   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  0:56     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 09/35] Unify TSC logic Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 10/35] Fix deep C-state TSC desynchronization Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:30   ` Glauber Costa
2010-09-14  9:10   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-14  9:27     ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-14 10:40       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-14 10:47         ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-14 19:32         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-14 22:26           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-14 23:40             ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2010-09-15  5:34               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-15  7:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15  8:04                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-15 12:29               ` Glauber Costa
2010-09-15  4:07     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-15  8:09       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-15 12:32         ` Glauber Costa
2010-09-15 18:27           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-17 22:09             ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-17 22:31               ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-18 23:53                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 11/35] Add helper functions for time computation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:34   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  0:58     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 12/35] Robust TSC compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:40   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  1:01     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-24 21:33   ` Daniel Verkamp
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 13/35] Perform hardware_enable in CPU_STARTING callback Zachary Amsden
2010-08-27 16:32   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 23:43     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-30  9:10       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 14/35] Add clock sync request to hardware enable Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 15/35] Move scale_delta into common header Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 16/35] Fix a possible backwards warp of kvmclock Zachary Amsden
2011-09-02 18:34   ` Philipp Hahn
2011-09-05 14:06     ` [BUG, PATCH-2.6.32] " Philipp Hahn
2011-09-12 11:32       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 17/35] Implement getnsboottime kernel API Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 18:39   ` john stultz
2010-08-20 23:37     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-21  0:02       ` john stultz
2010-08-21  0:52         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-21  1:04           ` john stultz
2010-08-21  1:22             ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-27 18:05   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 23:48     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-30 18:07       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 18/35] Use getnsboottime in KVM Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 19/35] Add timekeeping documentation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:50   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 20/35] Make math work for other scales Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 21/35] Track max tsc_khz Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 22/35] Track tsc last write in vcpu Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 23/35] Set initial TSC rate conversion factors Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 24/35] Timer request function renaming Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode Zachary Amsden
2010-08-25 17:27   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25 20:48     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-25 22:01       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25 23:38         ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-26  0:17         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 26/35] Catchup slower TSC to guest rate Zachary Amsden
2010-09-07  3:44   ` Dong, Eddie
2010-09-07 22:14     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 27/35] Add TSC trapping Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 28/35] Unstable TSC write compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 29/35] TSC overrun protection Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 30/35] IOCTL for setting TSC rate Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:56   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-21 16:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 31/35] Exit conditions for TSC trapping Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 32/35] Entry " Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 33/35] Indicate reliable TSC in kvmclock Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:45   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  1:14     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 34/35] Remove dead code Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 35/35] Add some debug stuff Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 13:26 ` KVM timekeeping and TSC virtualization David S. Ahern
2010-08-20 23:24   ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-22  1:32     ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-24  1:44       ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-24  3:04         ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-24  5:47           ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-24 13:32             ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-24 23:01               ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-25 16:55                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25 20:32                   ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-24 22:13 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25  4:04   ` Zachary Amsden

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