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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 9/9] KVM: Allow host IRQ sharing for passed-through PCI 2.3 devices
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:20:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CD958A1.4060603@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CD95679.2090209@siemens.com>

On 11/09/2010 04:11 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >
> >>>   but what about PCI_COMMAND_INTX_DISABLE?
> >>>
> >>>   Perhaps we can hook the kernel's handler for this bit?
> >>
> >>  Some IRQ registration notifier that would allow us to reregister our
> >>  handler with IRQ sharing support? Maybe.
> >
> >  Adding an internal API if preferable to an external one (it may be a
> >  pain to kvm-kmod users though).
>
> Primary concern should be a clean and robust API. From that POV, I would
> prefer an official hook with genirq maintainer blessing over fragile
> detection heuristics in kvm.

That is what I meant (internal to the kernel, not to kvm, vs the 
external kvm/user interface).

> Given that VSIO should benefit from any
> transparent pattern we develop here as well, it's probably worth to go
> that path - if it is really preferred over manual control like this
> patch proposes.

Yes.  The API is already sufficiently complicated that it is very hard 
for userspace to get right.

> For kvm-kmod, we could simply enforce IRQ sharing measures
> unconditionally. Not optimal from the performance POV, but people
> concerned that much about performance should better use KVM over the
> corresponding kernel anyway.

Or backport the needed patches.  kvm-kmod is now no longer needed for 
enterprise users with fixed distros, it's mostly useful for the embedded 
guys which have more flexibility.

> >>>
> >>>   I saw no reason this can't be a spinlock, but perhaps I missed
> >>>   something.  This would allow us to avoid srcu, which is slightly more
> >>>   expensive than rcu.  Since pci 2.3 assigned devices are not a major use
> >>>   case, I'd like not to penalize the mainstream users for this.
> >>
> >>  The lock has to be held across kvm_set_irq, which is the potentially
> >>  expensive (O(n), n == number of VCPUs) operation.
> >
> >  What we should probably do is have broadcast interrupts deferred to a
> >  thread.  I agree it isn't pretty.
>
> Not sure we could defer it that easily (if at all). However, I think
> such improvements should be done on top if this already complex change.

That means flipping locking to srcu and back to rcu.  What I'm proposing 
is to keep broadcast within the spinlock for now, and move it later, 
provided we agree that it's doable.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-09 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-08 11:21 [PATCH v4 0/9] KVM: Improve IRQ assignment for device passthrough Jan Kiszka
2010-11-08 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] KVM: Fix srcu struct leakage Jan Kiszka
2010-11-08 17:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:32     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-08 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] KVM: Switch IRQ subsystem to SRCU Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 10:49   ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-09 11:21     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-08 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] KVM: Clear assigned guest IRQ on release Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 10:58   ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-09 11:20     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 18:36     ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-10  6:53       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 10:36         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] KVM: Switch assigned device IRQ forwarding to threaded handler Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 12:26   ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-09 12:36     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-08 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] KVM: Refactor IRQ names of assigned devices Jan Kiszka
2010-11-08 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] KVM: Save/restore state of assigned PCI device Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 12:35   ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-09 13:29     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 13:36       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-09 13:44         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 13:46           ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-09 16:41             ` Don Dutile
2010-11-08 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] KVM: Clean up kvm_vm_ioctl_assigned_device Jan Kiszka
2010-11-08 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] KVM: Document device assigment API Jan Kiszka
2010-11-08 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] KVM: Allow host IRQ sharing for passed-through PCI 2.3 devices Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 13:27   ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-09 13:35     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 13:41       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-09 14:11         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-09 14:20           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-11-16 16:55 ` [PATCH v4 0/9] KVM: Improve IRQ assignment for device passthrough Marcelo Tosatti
2010-11-16 18:26   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-11-17  8:25     ` Avi Kivity

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