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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 2/4] Introduce a C++ wrapper for the kvm APIs
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:41:26 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CED2416.1040102@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50DD1E97-0ECD-41E6-B6F8-1D78AA4A4876@suse.de>

On 11/24/2010 06:59 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> On 24.11.2010, at 11:52, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>    
>> Introduce exception-safe objects for calling system, vm, and vcpu ioctls.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com>
>>      
>
> FWIW, I still disagree with C++ and believe this code to be hardly readable.
>    

There's a general prettiness that well written C++ code will have over C 
when there's heavy object modelling.  This can be subjective but for me, 
it's fairly significant.

The fact that objects are easily created on the stack and on the heap is 
also pretty significant.  When considering device models, we struggle 
today with device composition.

In real hardware, the i8042 (keyboard controller) is actually 
implemented in the PIIX3 which is a chip that is part of the i440fx.  
The i440fx acts as both the memory controller and as the PCI Host 
controller.  So you get something that looks like:

class PIIX3 : public PCIDevice
{
private:
     I8042 i8042;
     RTC rtc;
     // ...
};

class I440FX : public PCIHostController
{
    I440FX(void) {
         this->slots[1].plug(&this->piix3); // piix3 is always in slot 1
    }

private:
    Plug<PCIDevice *> slots[32]; // slot 0 is the PMC
    PIIX3 piix3;
};

So whereas we have this very complicate machine create function that 
attempts to create and composite all of these devices after the fact, 
when written in C++, partially due to good design, but partially due to 
the fact that the languages forces you to think a certain way, you get a 
tremendous simplification.

A proper C++ device model turns a vast majority of our device creation 
complexity into a single new I440FX.  Then it's just a matter of 
instantiating and plugging the appropriate set of PCI devices.

Of course, this can be wrapped in a factory to make it drivable via an 
API or config file.

Another area that C++ shines is safety.  C++ enables you to inject safe 
versions of things that you really can't do in C.  For instance, the PIT 
has three channels but the mask to select a channel is two bits.  There 
was a kernel exploit that found a way to trick selection of a forth 
channel because of a missing check.

In C++, you can convert:

PITChannel channnels[3];

Into:

Array<PITChannel, 3> channels;

It behaves in every other way just like a normal array.  The memory is 
stack allocated, the type has a fixed size.   The only difference is 
that you can overload the [] operators and implement bounds checking for 
array accesses.  This means that as long as you use Array<>, array 
overflows disappear from the code base.  That's a big deal.

Another area C++ shines is generating metacode.  Consider the ugliness 
around VMState.  The crux of the problem is that it's not possible to 
write type-neutral code in C.  This all gets simplified with C++.  
Instead of having a bunch of macros like:

VMSTATE_INT8(val0, ...)
VMSTATE_INT16(val1, ...)

You can just have:

vmstate(val0)
vmstate(val1)

And use type overloading to implement different behaviors.  Combined 
with template specialization and an Array wrapper, the same thing works 
for arrays too.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Alex
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-24 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-24 10:52 [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 0/4] API test framework Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 1/4] Makefile: add support for C++ Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 2/4] Introduce a C++ wrapper for the kvm APIs Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 12:59   ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-24 13:33     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 14:18     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:24       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:32       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:31     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:41     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-11-24 15:40       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 15:50         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 16:10           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 13:52             ` Mike Day
2010-11-24 16:12           ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 2/4] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:14             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:21               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:25                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:29                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:33                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:52                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:56                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:02                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:07                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:10                               ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:12                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:14                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 16:43                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 16:48                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:56                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:04                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:40             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:33               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:39                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:41                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:50                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:23                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 18:50                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:17                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 18:34                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 18:53                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-25  8:35                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:40           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:47             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:51               ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:57                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:29                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:59                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:06                   ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:11                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:17                       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:25                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:28                           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:31                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:36                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:41                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:27                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:35                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:36                           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:41                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:43                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:50                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:10                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 18:55                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 19:29                                       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 19:33                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:43                               ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:51                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:43                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:45                               ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:51                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:01                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 18:56                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:55               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:01                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:16                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:26                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:53             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:03               ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-28 12:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 22:04         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-28 22:28           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 23:13             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29  8:04               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 13:44                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29 13:48                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:29     ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:34       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:44         ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:49           ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 11:59     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:02       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 13:57         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 14:34           ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 16:57             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29  9:22               ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-29 10:47                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 10:52                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-29 11:26                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 13:38                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:10   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:29     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:45       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:53         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:55           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-25 16:32       ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 10:16   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]     ` <4CF0CB9A.5060403@redhat.com>
2010-11-28  8:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28  9:31         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28  9:50           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28  9:54             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 11:44               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:14                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 14:40                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 22:12                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29  9:30                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 11:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:15     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 14:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29  9:30         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 3/4] Add support for calling a function in guest mode Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 14:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]     ` <4CF0CC26.8030407@redhat.com>
2010-11-28  8:59       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28  9:22         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 4/4] Add sample test using the api test harness Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 14:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]     ` <4CF0CC4A.8070100@redhat.com>
2010-11-28  9:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28  9:21         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-29 16:09 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 0/4] API test framework Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-01 10:38   ` Avi Kivity

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