From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 2/4] Introduce a C++ wrapper for the kvm APIs
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:12:16 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF2D3C0.3050200@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101128144020.GC12874@redhat.com>
On 11/28/2010 08:40 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>
>> This code is not reusable. Everywhere you use an fd, you have to
>> repeat this code.
>>
> But that's not a lot of code. And you can abstract it away at a higher
> level. For example kvm_init and kvm_cleanup would setup/cleanup
> state in a consistent way.
>
> My experience tells me C++ code has much more boilerplate code that you
> are forced to repeat over and over. This is especially true for unix
> system programming: by the time you are done wrapping all of unix you
> have created more LOC than you are ever likely to save.
>
I've said it earlier but I think it's worth repeating--trying to wrap
libc in "pretty" C++ interfaces is a waste of time.
In an ideal world, the device model doesn't interact at all with libc.
Most of the code simply manipulates internal state and some code will
provide a bridge to well defined internal interfaces.
The nice thing about C++ though is that you can still write "C" code and
compile it with g++ (or even gcc if you care). So you can use objects
where they make sense and not use them where they don't.
>> class kvm::fd is reusable, if you embed it in another object you
>> don't have to worry about errors any more (as long as the object's
>> methods are exception safe).
>>
> To get exception safe code, you have to constantly worry about errors.
> And it's easier to spot an unhandled return code than exception-unsafe
> code: gcc actually has __attribute__((warn_unused_result)) which
> might help catch common errors. No such tool to catch
> exception-unsafe code AFAIK.
>
I tend to agree that writing exception safe code and using exceptions
for expected errors is a bad idea. I think exceptions should be used
primarily for unexpected errors.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
>> --
>> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
>>
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Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-24 10:52 [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 0/4] API test framework Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 1/4] Makefile: add support for C++ Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 2/4] Introduce a C++ wrapper for the kvm APIs Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 12:59 ` Alexander Graf
2010-11-24 13:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 15:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 13:52 ` Mike Day
2010-11-24 16:12 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 2/4] " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:21 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:10 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:12 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 16:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 16:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:04 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 18:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 18:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 18:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-25 8:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 16:40 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:51 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:06 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:17 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:28 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:36 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 18:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 19:29 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 19:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:43 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:45 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 17:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 18:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 18:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 17:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-24 17:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 17:03 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-28 12:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 22:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-28 22:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 23:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29 8:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29 13:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:29 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 16:44 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-11-24 16:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 11:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 13:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 14:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 16:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-29 10:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 10:52 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-29 11:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 13:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 14:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-25 16:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 10:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <4CF0CB9A.5060403@redhat.com>
2010-11-28 8:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 9:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 9:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 11:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 22:12 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-11-29 9:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 11:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 13:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-28 14:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29 9:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 3/4] Add support for calling a function in guest mode Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 14:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <4CF0CC26.8030407@redhat.com>
2010-11-28 8:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 10:52 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 4/4] Add sample test using the api test harness Avi Kivity
2010-11-26 14:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <4CF0CC4A.8070100@redhat.com>
2010-11-28 9:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 9:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-29 16:09 ` [PATCH kvm-unit-tests 0/4] API test framework Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-01 10:38 ` Avi Kivity
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