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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Yang, Sheng" <sheng.yang@intel.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Mask bit support's API
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:09:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF79A97.30407@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012011036.08926.sheng.yang@intel.com>

On 12/01/2010 04:36 AM, Yang, Sheng wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 November 2010 22:15:29 Avi Kivity wrote:
> >  On 11/26/2010 04:35 AM, Yang, Sheng wrote:
> >  >  >   >   Shouldn't kvm also service reads from the pending bitmask?
> >  >  >
> >  >  >   Of course KVM should service reading from pending bitmask. For
> >  >  >   assigned device, it's kernel who would set the pending bit; but I am
> >  >  >   not sure for virtio. This interface is GET_ENTRY, so reading is fine
> >  >  >   with it.
> >
> >  The kernel should manage it in the same way.  Virtio raises irq (via
> >  KVM_IRQ_LINE or vhost-net's irqfd), kernel sets pending bit.
> >
> >  Note we need to be able to read and write the pending bitmask for live
> >  migration.
>
> Then seems we still need to an writing interface for it. And I think we can work
> on it later since it got no user now.

I'm not sure.  Suppose a guest starts using pending bits.  Does it mean 
it will not work with kernel msix acceleration?

If that is the case, then we need pending bit support now.  I don't want 
to knowingly merge something that doesn't conform to the spec, forcing 
users to choose whether they want to enable kernel msix acceleration or not.



> >
> >  Because we have an interface where you get an exit if (addr % 4)<  3 and
> >  don't get an exit if (addr % 4) == 3.  There is a gpa range which is
> >  partially maintained by the kernel and partially in userspace.  It's a
> >  confusing interface.  Things like 64-bit reads or writes need to be
> >  broken up and serviced in two different places.
> >
> >  We already need to support this (for unaligned writes which hit two
> >  regions), but let's at least make a contiguous region behave sanely.
>
> Oh, I didn't mean to handle this kind of unaligned writing in userspace. They're
> illegal according to the PCI spec(otherwise the result is undefined according to
> the spec). I would cover all contiguous writing(32-bit and 64-bit) in the next
> version, and discard all illegal writing. And 64-bit accessing would be broken up
> in qemu as you said, as they do currently.
>
> In fact I think we can handle all data for 64-bit to qemu, because it should still
> sync the mask bit with kernel, which make the maskbit writing in userspace useless
> and can be ignored.

What about reads?  Split those as well?

> >  The reason is to keep a sane interface.  Like we emulate instructions
> >  and msrs in the kernel and don't do half a job.  I don't think there's a
> >  real need to accelerate the first three words of an msi-x entry.
>
> Here is the case we've observed with Xen. It can only be reproduced by large scale
> testing. When the interrupt intensity is very high, even new kernels would try to
> make it lower, then it would access mask bit very frequently. And in the kernel,
> msi_set_mask_bit() is like this:
>
> static void msi_set_mask_bit(struct irq_data *data, u32 flag)
> {
>          struct msi_desc *desc = irq_data_get_msi(data);
>
>          if (desc->msi_attrib.is_msix) {
>                  msix_mask_irq(desc, flag);
>                  readl(desc->mask_base);         /* Flush write to device */
>          } else {
>                  unsigned offset = data->irq - desc->dev->irq;
>                  msi_mask_irq(desc, 1<<  offset, flag<<  offset);
>          }
> }
>
> That flush by readl() would complied with each MSI-X mask writing. That is the only
> place we want to accelerate, otherwise it would still fall back to qemu each time
> when guest want to mask the MSI-X entry.

So it seems we do want to accelerate reads to the entire entry.  This 
seems to give more weight to making the kernel own the entire entry.

> >
> >  >  And BTW, we can take routing table as a kind of *cache*, if the content
> >  >  is in the cache, then we can fetch it from the cache, otherwise we need
> >  >  to go back to fetch it from memory(userspace).
> >
> >  If it's guaranteed by the spec that addr/data pairs are always
> >  interpreted in the same way, sure.  But there no reason to do it,
> >  really, it isn't a fast path.
>
> I am not quite understand the first sentence... But it's a fast path, in the case I
> showed above.

Which case?  the readl() doesn't need access to the routing table, just 
the entry.

Oh, I think there is a terminology problem, I was talking about kvm's 
irq routing table, you were talking about the msix entries.

I think treating it as a cache causes more problems, since there are now 
two paths for reads (in cache and not in cache) and more things for 
writes to manage.

Here's my proposed API:

KVM_DEFINE_MSIX_TABLE(table_id, nr_entries, msix_base_gpa, 
pending_bitmap_base_gpa)

  - called when the guest enables msix

KVM_REMOVE_MSIX_TABLE(table_id)

   - called when the guest disables msix

KVM_SET_MSIX_ENTRY(table_id, entry_id, contents)

   - called when the guest enables msix (to initialize it), or after 
live migration

KVM_GET_MSIX_ENTRY(table_id, entry_id, contents)

   - called when the guest updates an msix table (triggered by 
KVM_EXIT_MSIX_ENTRY_UPDATED)

KVM_RUN -> KVM_EXIT_MSIX_ENTRY_UPDATED

   - returned from KVM_RUN after the guest touches the first three words 
of an msix entry

KVM_SET_MSIX_ENTRY_IRQ(table_id, entry_id, msix_irq_desc)

msix_irq_desc could describe an assigned device irq, or gsi that is 
mapped to an msix interrupt in the kvm routing table.

Michael?  I think that should work for virtio and vfio assigned 
devices?  Not sure about pending bits.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-02 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-23  6:09 Mask bit support's API Yang, Sheng
2010-11-23  6:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-23  6:35   ` Yang, Sheng
2010-11-23  7:54     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-23  8:30       ` Yang, Sheng
2010-11-23 12:47         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-23 12:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-23 13:57           ` Yang, Sheng
2010-11-23 14:06             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-23 15:11               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-23 15:24                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-23 16:10                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-24  1:59               ` Yang, Sheng
2010-11-26  2:35                 ` Yang, Sheng
2010-11-30 14:15                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01  2:36                     ` Yang, Sheng
2010-12-02 13:09                       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-12-02 13:47                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-02 13:56                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 14:26                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-02 14:54                               ` Sheng Yang
2010-12-02 16:55                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-03  3:03                                   ` Yang, Sheng
2010-11-23 12:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-23 14:02   ` Yang, Sheng

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