From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: lidong chen <chen.lidong.kernel@gmail.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm-vmx: add module parameter to avoid trapping HLT instructions (v2)
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 17:28:45 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF97D2D.7020001@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF8BA99.9070002@redhat.com>
On 12/03/2010 03:38 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 12/02/2010 05:23 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 12/02/2010 08:39 AM, lidong chen wrote:
>>> In certain use-cases, we want to allocate guests fixed time slices
>>> where idle
>>> guest cycles leave the machine idling.
>>>
>>> i could not understand why need this? can you tell more detailedly?
>>
>> If you run 4 guests on a CPU, and they're all trying to consume 100%
>> CPU, all things being equal, you'll get ~25% CPU for each guest.
>>
>> However, if one guest is idle, you'll get something like 1% 32% 33%
>> 32%. This characteristic is usually desirable because it increase
>> aggregate throughput but in some circumstances, determinism is more
>> desirable than aggregate throughput.
>>
>> This patch essentially makes guest execution non-work conserving by
>> making it appear to the scheduler that each guest wants 100% CPU even
>> though they may be idling.
>>
>> That means that regardless of what each guest is doing, if you have
>> four guests on one CPU, each will get ~25% CPU[1].
>>
>
> What if one of the guest crashes qemu or invokes a powerdown?
> Suddenly the others get 33% each (with 1% going to my secret round-up
> account). Doesn't seem like a reliable way to limit cpu.
A guest shutting down is a macro event. Macro events are easy to track
and are logged by even the most naive management tools. Macro events
affecting performance are a workable problem. I agree, it would be
ideal to make them not impact performance but perfection is the enemy of
good.
The problem with the status quo is that there is no performance
stability in a consolidation environment.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-03 23:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-02 13:59 [PATCH] kvm-vmx: add module parameter to avoid trapping HLT instructions (v2) Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 14:39 ` lidong chen
2010-12-02 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 9:38 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 11:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 23:28 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-12-02 17:37 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-02 19:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 20:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-02 20:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 9:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 22:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-04 8:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-04 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 8:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 14:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 14:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 14:14 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-06 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 14:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 15:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 16:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 16:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-06 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 12:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-03 23:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 22:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-04 8:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-04 13:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-06 8:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 19:14 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-02 20:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 20:40 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-02 20:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-02 21:07 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-02 22:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 2:42 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 3:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 3:44 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 14:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-02 22:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 22:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-04 5:43 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 9:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 11:21 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 11:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 16:27 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 17:33 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-04 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 17:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:58 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 18:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 18:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-04 8:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-03 18:20 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 18:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-03 18:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-03 18:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-12-03 17:28 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 17:36 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:38 ` Chris Wright
2010-12-03 17:43 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-03 17:47 ` Anthony Liguori
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