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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, zamsden@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] KVM in-kernel PM Timer implementation
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 10:04:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D079571.4030402@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D078F5E.60104@redhat.com>

On 12/14/2010 09:38 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Fortunately, we have a very good bytecode interpreter that's 
> accelerated in the kernel called KVM ;-)
>
> We have exactly the same bytecode interpreter under a different name, 
> it's called userspace.
>
> If you can afford to make the transition back to the guest for 
> emulation, you might as well transition to userspace.

If you re-entered the guest and setup a stack that had the RIP of the 
source of the exit, then there's no additional need to exit the guest.  
The handler can just do an iret.  Or am I missing something?

>>
>> Why not have the equivalent of a paravirtual SMM mode where we can 
>> reflect IO exits back to the guest in a well defined way?  It could 
>> then implement PM timer in terms of HPET or something like that.
>
> More exits.

Yeah, I should have said, implement in terms of kvmclock so no 
additional exits.

>>
>> We already have a virtual address space that works for most guests 
>> thanks to the TPR optimization.
>
> It only works for Windows XP and Windows XP with the /3GB extension.

Is this a fundamental limitation or just a statement of today's 
heuristics?  Does any guest not keep the BIOS in virtual memory in a 
static location?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori



  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-14 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2010-12-14 12:09 ` [RFC 0/4] KVM in-kernel PM Timer implementation Ulrich Obergfell
2010-12-14 13:34   ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 13:40     ` Glauber Costa
2010-12-14 13:49       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 13:52         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-14 15:32         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-14 15:38           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 16:04             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-12-15  9:33               ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 15:29   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-14 18:00     ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-14 19:49       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-14 19:54         ` David S. Ahern
2010-12-14 21:46           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-12-14 23:59             ` David S. Ahern
     [not found] <953393305.700721292337871455.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
2010-12-14 14:44 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2010-12-14 15:12   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found] <1956121317.795411292413874075.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
2010-12-15 11:53 ` Ulrich Obergfell
2012-02-21 18:10   ` Peter Lieven

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