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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 17/17] kvm: Drop dependencies on very old capabilities
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:24:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D220646.9090403@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D220103.5070707@redhat.com>

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Am 03.01.2011 18:01, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 01/03/2011 06:54 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Am 03.01.2011 17:08, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> >  On 01/03/2011 10:33 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> >>  From: Jan Kiszka<jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
>> >>
>> >>  COALESCED_MMIO, SYNC_MMU, EXT_CPUID, CLOCKSOURCE, NOP_IO_DELAY,
>> PV_MMU -
>> >>  all these caps predate features on which we already depend at build
>> >>  time. Moreover, the check for KVM_CAP_EXT_CPUID is unneeded as we
>> >>  already test&   fail is a more recent feature is missing.
>> >
>> >  No.  Each test documents a dependency of qemu on a kvm feature.  Even
>> >  though something like SYNC_MMU is unlikely to go away, as long as we
>> >  depend on it, we require the feature.
>> >
>>
>> Then at least move all those KVM_CAPs we need at build time into
>> configure.
> 
> Need a run time check as well (build on new kernel, run on old kernel,
> or run on even newer kernel that lost a feature).
> 
>> I really see no value in keeping ugly conditional code
>> around, A) because those paths won't be tested and B) none of the CAPs
>> touched here are to pass away without a replacement that will require
>> user space adaption anyway.
> 
> I'm fine with a series of checks during init time with no fallback.  I'm
> not fine with just dropping those away.  Reducing code size is great,
> but not at the cost of undiagnosed runtime failures.

My worry was not code size but untested code. And looking at the
EXT_CPUID case again, this is what would happen:
kvm_x86_get_supported_cpuid will return -1 if we lack EXT_CPUID, but
that value is interpreted by the callers as "all requested features
available" - likely not that helpful in all cases. This also affects
qemu-kvm.

I will add generic and per-arch check sections at build and runtime for
CAPs we don't want to miss.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-03 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-03  8:32 [PATCH v2 00/17] [uq/master] Prepare for more qemu-kvm merging Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] kvm: Fix coding style violations Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] kvm: Drop return value of kvm_cpu_exec Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] kvm: Stop on all fatal exit reasons Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] kvm: Improve reporting of fatal errors Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] x86: Optionally dump code bytes on cpu_dump_state Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 13:13   ` [PATCH v3 " Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] kvm: x86: Align kvm_arch_put_registers code with comment Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] kvm: x86: Prepare kvm_get_mp_state for in-kernel irqchip Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] kvm: x86: Remove redundant mp_state initialization Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:32 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] kvm: x86: Fix xcr0 reset mismerge Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] kvm: x86: Refactor msr_star/hsave_pa setup and checks Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] kvm: x86: Reset paravirtual MSRs Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 16:40   ` Glauber Costa
2011-01-03 16:46     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 16:51       ` Glauber Costa
2011-01-03  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] kvm: x86: Drop MCE MSRs write back restrictions Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] kvm: Eliminate KVMState arguments Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 11:13   ` Alexander Graf
2011-01-03  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] kvm: x86: Introduce kvmclock device to save/restore its state Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 16:04   ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-03 16:30     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 16:39       ` Glauber Costa
2011-01-03 16:41       ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-03 16:38     ` Glauber Costa
2011-01-03 16:37   ` Glauber Costa
2011-01-03 16:48     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] kvm: Drop smp_cpus argument from init functions Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] kvm: x86: Rework identity map and TSS setup for larger BIOS sizes Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 16:06   ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-03 16:52     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 16:59       ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-03 17:19         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03  8:33 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] kvm: Drop dependencies on very old capabilities Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 16:08   ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-03 16:54     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 17:01       ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-03 17:24         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-01-03 12:44 ` [PATCH 18/17] kvm: Flush coalesced mmio buffer on IO window exits Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 16:09 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] [uq/master] Prepare for more qemu-kvm merging Avi Kivity
2011-01-04  8:42   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-04  9:02     ` Avi Kivity

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