From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC -v3 PATCH 2/3] sched: add yield_to function
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:08:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D2434F6.4020904@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110105173823.B658.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On 01/05/2011 10:40 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > On 01/05/2011 04:39 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > On 01/04/2011 08:14 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > > Also, If pthread_cond_signal() call sys_yield_to imlicitly, we can
> > > > > avoid almost Nehalem (and other P2P cache arch) lock unfairness
> > > > > problem. (probaby creating pthread_condattr_setautoyield_np or similar
> > > > > knob is good one)
> > > >
> > > > Often, the thread calling pthread_cond_signal() wants to continue
> > > > executing, not yield.
> > >
> > > Then, it doesn't work.
> > >
> > > After calling pthread_cond_signal(), T1 which cond_signal caller and T2
> > > which waked start to GIL grab race. But usually T1 is always win because
> > > lock variable is in T1's cpu cache. Why kernel and userland have so much
> > > different result? One of a reason is glibc doesn't have any ticket lock scheme.
> > >
> > > If you are interesting GIL mess and issue, please feel free to ask more.
> >
> > I suggest looking into an explicit round-robin scheme, where each thread
> > adds itself to a queue and an unlock wakes up the first waiter.
>
> I'm sure you haven't try your scheme. but I did. It's slow.
Won't anything with a heavily contented global/giant lock be slow?
What's the average lock hold time per thread? 10%? 50%? 90%?
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-05 9:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-03 21:26 [RFC -v3 PATCH 0/3] directed yield for Pause Loop Exiting Rik van Riel
2011-01-03 21:27 ` [RFC -v3 PATCH 1/3] kvm: keep track of which task is running a KVM vcpu Rik van Riel
2011-01-03 21:29 ` [RFC -v3 PATCH 2/3] sched: add yield_to function Rik van Riel
2011-01-04 1:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-04 6:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-01-04 12:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-05 2:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-01-05 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-05 8:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-01-05 9:08 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-01-05 9:30 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-01-05 9:34 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-05 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-05 10:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-04 17:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-05 3:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-01-04 14:28 ` Hillf Danton
2011-01-04 16:41 ` Hillf Danton
2011-01-04 16:44 ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-04 16:51 ` Hillf Danton
2011-01-04 16:54 ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-04 17:02 ` Hillf Danton
2011-01-04 17:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-04 17:12 ` Hillf Danton
2011-01-04 17:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-04 17:53 ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-04 18:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-04 18:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-04 18:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-05 16:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-05 17:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-05 17:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-07 5:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-13 3:02 ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-13 3:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-13 5:08 ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-06 14:33 ` Hillf Danton
2011-01-05 17:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-05 17:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-05 17:19 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-05 17:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-05 17:35 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-05 17:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-06 3:49 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-03 21:30 ` [RFC -v3 PATCH 3/3] Subject: kvm: use yield_to instead of sleep in kvm_vcpu_on_spin Rik van Riel
2011-01-04 6:42 ` [RFC -v3 PATCH 0/3] directed yield for Pause Loop Exiting Mike Galbraith
2011-01-04 9:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-04 10:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-04 10:35 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-04 9:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-04 10:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-04 17:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
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