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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: Convert read-only users of vm_list to RCU
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:45:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D53DDD3.5020704@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D53DB54.90605@redhat.com>

On 2011-02-10 13:34, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/10/2011 01:31 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  @@ -3607,10 +3607,14 @@ static int mmu_shrink(struct shrinker *shrink, int nr_to_scan, gfp_t gfp_mask)
>>>>    		spin_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock);
>>>>    		srcu_read_unlock(&kvm->srcu, idx);
>>>>    	}
>>>>  -	if (kvm_freed)
>>>>  -		list_move_tail(&kvm_freed->vm_list,&vm_list);
>>>>  +	if (kvm_freed) {
>>>>  +		raw_spin_lock(&kvm_lock);
>>>>  +		if (!kvm->deleted)
>>>>  +			list_move_tail(&kvm_freed->vm_list,&vm_list);
>>>
>>>  There is no list_move_tail_rcu().
>>
>> ...specifically not for this one.
> 
> Well, we can add one if needed (and if possible).

I can have a look, at least at the lower hanging fruits.

> 
>>>
>>>  Why check kvm->deleted?  it's in the process of being torn down anyway,
>>>  it doesn't matter if mmu_shrink or kvm_destroy_vm pulls the trigger.
>>
>> kvm_destroy_vm removes a vm from the list while mmu_shrink is running.
>> Then mmu_shrink's list_move_tail will re-add that vm to the list tail
>> again (unless already the removal in move_tail produces a crash).
> 
> It's too subtle.  Communication across threads with a variable needs 
> memory barriers (even though they're nops on x86) and documentation.

The barriers are provided by this spin lock we acquire for testing are
modifying deleted.

> 
> btw, not even sure if it's legal: you have a mutating call within an rcu 
> read critical section for the same object.  If synchronize_rcu() were 
> called there, would it ever terminate?

Why not? kvm_destroy_vm is not preventing blocking mmu_shrink to acquire
the kvm_lock where we then find the vm deleted and release both kvm_lock
and the rcu read "lock" afterwards.

> 
> (not that synchronize_rcu() is a good thing there, better do it with 
> call_rcu()).

What's the benefit? The downside is a bit more complexity as you need an
additional callback handler.

Jan

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Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-10 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4D512EF7.8040409@siemens.com>
2011-02-08 11:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: Convert read-only users of vm_list to RCU Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 10:16   ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 11:31     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 12:34       ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 12:45         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-02-10 12:56           ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 12:57             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:14               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 13:19                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:47                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 14:26                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 14:34                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 14:47                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 14:55                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-15 12:32   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-15 14:08     ` Jan Kiszka

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