From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Anthony Liguori Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for Feb 8 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:51:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4D53DF42.4030700@codemonkey.ws> References: <4D526D0D.9020507@codemonkey.ws> <4D52A86A.1030407@codemonkey.ws> <4D52F20A.7070009@codemonkey.ws> <4D539800.3070802@codemonkey.ws> <20110210090748.GD673@redhat.com> <4D53BD22.1040800@redhat.com> <20110210111354.GA21681@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Avi Kivity , Chris Wright , kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster , Blue Swirl To: Gleb Natapov Return-path: Received: from mail-fx0-f46.google.com ([209.85.161.46]:52870 "EHLO mail-fx0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752822Ab1BJMvU (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:51:20 -0500 Received: by fxm20 with SMTP id 20so1437580fxm.19 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:51:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110210111354.GA21681@redhat.com> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 02/10/2011 12:13 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote: > > Which spec? Even in this discussion we completely mixed different > things. 440FX is not a chipset. Yes, it is. It's a single silicon package with a defined pinout. If you don't believe me, re-read the spec. It's a MCM with the PIIX3 being internally connected. The connection between the i440fx and PIIX3 happens to be PCI but that's not always the case. Sometimes it's a proprietary bus. > Again you probably mean PIIX3. Even then removing unused ide will free > one more PCI slot for my cool virtio disk array. The things is, from > code point of view, it does not cost you extra to allow composition of > ide since it is just a regular PCI device and we need to support composing > those anyway. > If this is useful, and it doesn't break guests, you can always do -device i440fx,ide=off. However, it's an exception where we're deviating from how hardware works. And that's okay, but the base modelling ought to follow real hardware closely with deviations being the exception. Regards, Anthony Liguori