From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: Convert read-only users of vm_list to RCU
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:34:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D53F770.6040908@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D53F5A4.8050403@redhat.com>
On 2011-02-10 15:26, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/10/2011 03:47 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Accept for mmu_shrink, which is write but not delete, thus works without
>>>> that slow synchronize_rcu.
>>>
>>> I don't really see how you can implement list_move_rcu(), it has to be
>>> atomic or other users will see a partial vm_list.
>>
>> Right, even if we synchronized that step cleanly, rcu-protected users
>> could miss the moving vm during concurrent list walks.
>>
>> What about using a separate mutex for protecting vm_list instead?
>> Unless I missed some detail, mmu_shrink should allow blocking.
>
> What else does kvm_lock protect?
Someone tried to write a locking.txt and stated that it's also
protecting enabling/disabling hardware virtualization. But that guy may
have overlooked something.
>
> I think we could simply reduce the amount of time we hold kvm_lock.
> Pick a vm, ref it, list_move_tail(), unlock, then do the actual
> shrinking. Of course taking a ref must be done carefully, we might
> already be in kvm_destroy_vm() at that time.
>
Plain mutex held across the whole mmu_shrink loop is still simpler and
should be sufficient - unless we also have to deal with scalability
issues if that handler is able to run concurrently. But based on how we
were using kvm_lock so far...
Jan
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2011-02-08 11:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: Convert read-only users of vm_list to RCU Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 10:16 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 11:31 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 12:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 12:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 12:57 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 13:19 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:47 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 14:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 14:34 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-02-10 14:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 14:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-15 12:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-15 14:08 ` Jan Kiszka
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