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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] KVM: Convert read-only users of vm_list to RCU
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:55:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D53FC7D.9090609@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D53FA97.4090007@redhat.com>

On 2011-02-10 15:47, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/10/2011 04:34 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2011-02-10 15:26, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>  On 02/10/2011 03:47 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Accept for mmu_shrink, which is write but not delete, thus works without
>>>>>>   that slow synchronize_rcu.
>>>>>
>>>>>   I don't really see how you can implement list_move_rcu(), it has to be
>>>>>   atomic or other users will see a partial vm_list.
>>>>
>>>>  Right, even if we synchronized that step cleanly, rcu-protected users
>>>>  could miss the moving vm during concurrent list walks.
>>>>
>>>>  What about using a separate mutex for protecting vm_list instead?
>>>>  Unless I missed some detail, mmu_shrink should allow blocking.
>>>
>>>  What else does kvm_lock protect?
>>
>> Someone tried to write a locking.txt and stated that it's also
>> protecting enabling/disabling hardware virtualization. But that guy may
>> have overlooked something.
> 
> Right.  I guess splitting that lock makes sense.
> 
>>>
>>>  I think we could simply reduce the amount of time we hold kvm_lock.
>>>  Pick a vm, ref it, list_move_tail(), unlock, then do the actual
>>>  shrinking.  Of course taking a ref must be done carefully, we might
>>>  already be in kvm_destroy_vm() at that time.
>>>
>>
>> Plain mutex held across the whole mmu_shrink loop is still simpler and
>> should be sufficient - unless we also have to deal with scalability
>> issues if that handler is able to run concurrently. But based on how we
>> were using kvm_lock so far...
> 
> I don't think a mutex would work for kvmclock_cpufreq_notifier().  At 
> the very least, we'd need a preempt_disable() there.  At the worst, the 
> notifier won't like sleeping.

Damn, there was that other user. Yes, this means we need to break the
lock in mmu_shrink.

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-10 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4D512EF7.8040409@siemens.com>
2011-02-08 11:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: Convert read-only users of vm_list to RCU Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 10:16   ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 11:31     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 12:34       ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 12:45         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 12:56           ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 12:57             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:14               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 13:19                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:47                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 14:26                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 14:34                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-10 14:47                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 14:55                           ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-02-15 12:32   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-02-15 14:08     ` Jan Kiszka

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