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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for Feb 8
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:43:55 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D585EAB.4070100@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikBqbUMeTpuJTDLp3nQC1KP1gvqbkw9eV94WZJ_@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/13/2011 03:24 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 13 February 2011 16:56, Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws>  wrote:
>    
>> If we can move away from Bus abstraction and to a simpler interface
>> mechanism, then we can express peer relationships by just having bidirection
>> references.  IOW:
>>
>> -device cpus,northbridge=nb,id=cpus,count=16 -device i440fx,cpus=cpus
>>
>> I don't think modelling each CPU makes sense.  We should probably just model
>> all cpus in a single device for the sake of simplicity.
>>      
> How would this work for systems with multiple CPUs which have different
> views of the world? (ie their memory maps differ so that eg some RAM is
> shared between them but some parts of the address space are different
> RAM for the two cores, some devices one core only, some devices shared
> between cores but the device can tell which core made an IO request)
> With a bus-style abstraction this is straightforward: each core has its
> own bus which is what defines its view of the world, some devices
> and RAM are wired up to both buses. I'm not sure how the bidirectional
> reference model would look for this?
>    

Each core has it's own northbridge.  You would do:

-device arm-cpu,northbridge=nb1  -device dsp,northbridge=nb2

Or whatever.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> (Real world examples would be if we ever had any need to actually
> model any of the auxiliary cores in say an OMAP device, or the
> M3 in a versatile-express. Yes, most systems won't look that odd
> but it does come up, especially in testbench type designs, and our
> interface abstraction should be able to handle it.)
>
> -- PMM
>
>    


  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-13 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-08 15:55 KVM call minutes for Feb 8 Chris Wright
2011-02-08 16:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-08 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-08 17:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-08 19:02   ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-08 21:11     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09  8:11     ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09  8:20       ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-09  9:02         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-08 19:30   ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-08 19:30   ` Aurelien Jarno
2011-02-09  8:23     ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 10:43     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 17:38       ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-08 21:12   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09  8:01     ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 10:31       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 12:28         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 14:44           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 17:48             ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-09 19:53               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 19:59               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 20:15                 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-10  7:47                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10  8:16                     ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10  8:36                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10  9:04                         ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 10:13                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 10:38                             ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 11:24                               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 12:23                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:06                                 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 19:17                       ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 19:22                         ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 19:29                           ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10  9:07                     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 10:00                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 10:10                         ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 10:19                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 10:49                             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 12:47                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:12                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 10:25                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 11:13                         ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 12:51                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:00                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:29                               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 14:00                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:27                             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 14:04                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 14:20                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 16:05                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-11 18:14                                     ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13  9:24                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 15:31                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 19:37                                         ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 19:57                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 21:00                                             ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 22:42                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 17:31                                                 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-14 20:53                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 21:25                                                     ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-14 21:47                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-15 17:11                                                         ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-15 23:07                                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-16  9:52                                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-14  9:44                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-02-10 10:29                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-13 15:38                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 15:56                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-13 16:56                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 18:08                             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 19:38                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 10:23                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 21:24                             ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-13 22:43                               ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-02-13 23:35                                 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-13 15:39                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-11 17:54                     ` Blue Swirl

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