From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
mtosatti@redhat.com, xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Weight-balanced binary tree + KVM growable memory slots using wbtree
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:54:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6A1F55.7080804@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1298568944.6140.21.camel@x201>
On 02/24/2011 07:35 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 12:06 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > On 02/23/2011 09:28 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > I had forgotten about<1M mem, so actually the slot configuration was:
> > >
> > > 0:<1M
> > > 1: 1M - 3.5G
> > > 2: 4G+
> > >
> > > I stacked the deck in favor of the static array (0: 4G+, 1: 1M-3.5G, 2:
> > > <1M), and got these kernbench results:
> > >
> > > base (stdev) reorder (stdev) wbtree (stdev)
> > > --------+-----------------+----------------+----------------+
> > > Elapsed | 42.809 (0.19) | 42.160 (0.22) | 42.305 (0.23) |
> > > User | 115.709 (0.22) | 114.358 (0.40) | 114.720 (0.31) |
> > > System | 41.605 (0.14) | 40.741 (0.22) | 40.924 (0.20) |
> > > %cpu | 366.9 (1.45) | 367.4 (1.17) | 367.6 (1.51) |
> > > context | 7272.3 (68.6) | 7248.1 (89.7) | 7249.5 (97.8) |
> > > sleeps | 14826.2 (110.6) | 14780.7 (86.9) | 14798.5 (63.0) |
> > >
> > > So, wbtree is only slightly behind reordering, and the standard
> > > deviation suggests the runs are mostly within the noise of each other.
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > Doesn't this indicate we should use reordering, instead of a new data
> > structure?
>
> The original problem that brought this on was scaling. The re-ordered
> array still has O(N) scaling while the tree should have ~O(logN) (note
> that it currently doesn't because it needs a compaction algorithm added
> after insert and remove). So yes, it's hard to beat the results of a
> test that hammers on the first couple entries of a sorted array, but I
> think the tree has better than current performance and more predictable
> when scaled performance.
Scaling doesn't matter, only actual performance. Even a guest with 512
slots would still hammer only on the first few slots, since these will
contain the bulk of memory.
> If we knew when we were searching for which type of data, it would
> perhaps be nice if we could use a sorted array for guest memory (since
> it's nicely bounded into a small number of large chunks), and a tree for
> mmio (where we expect the scaling to be a factor). Thanks,
We have three types of memory:
- RAM - a few large slots
- mapped mmio (for device assignment) - possible many small slots
- non-mapped mmio (for emulated devices) - no slots
The first two are handled in exactly the same way - they're just memory
slots. We expect a lot more hits into the RAM slots, since they're much
bigger. But by far the majority of faults will be for the third
category - mapped memory will be hit once per page, then handled by
hardware until Linux memory management does something about the page,
which should hopefully be rare (with device assignment, rare == never,
since those pages are pinned).
Therefore our optimization priorities should be
- complete miss into the slot list
- hit into the RAM slots
- hit into the other slots (trailing far behind)
Of course worst-case performance matters. For example, we might (not
sure) be searching the list with the mmu spinlock held.
I think we still have a bit to go before we can justify the new data
structure.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-27 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-22 8:08 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: optimize memslots searching and cache GPN to GFN Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 8:09 ` [PATCH 1/7] KVM: cleanup memslot_id function Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 8:10 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: introduce KVM_MEM_SLOTS_NUM macro Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 8:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: introduce memslots_updated function Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 8:12 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: sort memslots and use binary search to search the right slot Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 14:25 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 14:54 ` Alex Williamson
2011-02-22 18:54 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Weight-balanced binary tree + KVM growable memory slots using wbtree Alex Williamson
2011-02-22 18:55 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] Weight-balanced tree Alex Williamson
2011-02-23 13:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 17:02 ` Alex Williamson
2011-02-23 17:08 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 20:19 ` Alex Williamson
2011-02-24 23:04 ` Andrew Morton
2011-02-22 18:55 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] kvm: Allow memory slot array to grow on demand Alex Williamson
2011-02-24 10:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 18:08 ` Alex Williamson
2011-02-27 9:44 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 18:55 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] kvm: Use weight-balanced tree for memory slot management Alex Williamson
2011-02-22 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Weight-balanced binary tree + KVM growable memory slots using wbtree Alex Williamson
2011-02-23 1:56 ` Alex Williamson
2011-02-23 13:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 18:06 ` Alex Williamson
2011-02-23 19:28 ` Alex Williamson
2011-02-24 10:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 17:35 ` Alex Williamson
2011-02-27 9:54 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-28 23:04 ` Alex Williamson
2011-03-01 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-01 18:20 ` Alex Williamson
2011-03-02 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-01 19:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-02 13:34 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-24 10:04 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 1:30 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: sort memslots and use binary search to search the right slot Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 8:13 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: cache the last used slot Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 14:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-22 8:15 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: cleanup traversal used slots Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 8:16 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: MMU: cache guest page number to guest frame number Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-23 1:38 ` Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-23 9:28 ` Avi Kivity
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