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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, joro@8bytes.org, penberg@cs.helsinki.fi,
	asias.hejun@gmail.com, gorcunov@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Native Linux KVM tool
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:59:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D9F9359.20708@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110408192039.GJ29444@random.random>

On 04/08/2011 02:20 PM, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hi Anthony,
>
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 09:00:43AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> An example is ioport_ops.  This maps directly to
>> ioport_{read,write}_table in QEMU.  Then you use ioport__register() to
>> register entries in this table similar register_ioport_{read,write}() in
>> QEMU.
>>
>> The use of a struct is a small improvement but the fundamental design is
>> flawed because it models a view of hardware where all devices are
>> directly connected to the CPU.  This is not how hardware works at all.
> Not sure if I've the whole picture on this but I see no answer to your
> email and I found your remark above the most interesting. This is
> because I thought the whole point of a native kvm tool was to go all
> the paravirt way to provide max performance and maybe also depend on
> vhost as much as possible.

Yeah, if that's the goal, skip all the mini-BIOS junk and just rely on a 
PV kernel in the guest.

I think a mini userspace that assumes that we can change the guest 
kernel and avoids having a ton of complexity to do things like CMOS 
emulation would be a really interesting thing to do.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-08 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-31 17:30 [ANNOUNCE] Native Linux KVM tool Pekka Enberg
     [not found] ` <1B1AE097-4524-4026-85EC-F9A0E274FFF2@suse.de>
2011-04-01  7:07   ` Carsten Otte
2011-04-01  7:37     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-04-01 14:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-02 20:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-04-03  6:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-03  8:24     ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-03  8:53       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-03  9:06         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-04-03  9:37         ` CaT
2011-04-04 10:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-03  8:51   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-03  9:17     ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-03  8:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-03  9:59   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-03 10:11     ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-03 10:17       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-03 10:22         ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-03 10:32           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-03 13:09       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-04-03 13:19         ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-06  9:33           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-06  9:36             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-04-06  9:46               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-06  9:49                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-06  9:51                 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-04-06 10:14             ` Olivier Galibert
2011-04-06 10:55               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-08  2:04                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-04-08  2:14             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-04-08  5:14               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-08  6:19                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-04-08  6:47                 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2011-04-08  6:51                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-08  7:10                     ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2011-04-08  7:39                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-04-08  8:27                   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-08  9:11                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-04-08  9:32                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-04-08 10:42                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-04-08 12:27                           ` Alexander Graf
2011-04-08 12:33                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-04-08 14:39                         ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-08 14:00                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-04-08 19:20                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-04-08 22:59                     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-04-10  8:05                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-09  7:40                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-12  0:58                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-04-09 18:23                   ` Olivier Galibert
2011-04-10  2:54                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-04-08 15:59               ` Scott Wood
2011-04-08 22:58                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-04-06  8:59         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-04-06  9:29           ` Gleb Natapov
2011-04-03  9:01 ` Alon Levy
2011-04-03 10:01   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-03 10:15     ` Alon Levy

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