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From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: KVM mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: performance of virtual functions compared to virtio
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:40:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DB5DC41.7060308@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1303763254.3431.79.camel@x201>



On 04/25/11 14:27, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 13:49 -0600, David Ahern wrote:
>>
>> On 04/25/11 13:29, Alex Williamson wrote:
>>> So we're effectively getting host-host latency/throughput for the VF,
>>> it's just that in the 82576 implementation of SR-IOV, the VF takes a
>>> latency hit that puts it pretty close to virtio.  Unfortunate.  I think
>>
>> For host-to-VM using VFs is worse than virtio which is counterintuitive.
> 
> On the same host, just think about the data path of one versus the
> other.  On the guest side, there's virtio vs a physical NIC.  virtio is
> designed to be virtualization friendly, so hopefully has less context
> switches in setting up and processing transactions.  Once the packet
> leaves the assigned physical NIC, it has to come back up the entire host
> I/O stack, while the virtio device is connected to an internal bridge
> and bypasses all but the upper level network routing.

I get the virtio path, but you lost me on the physical NIC. I thought
the point of VFs is to bypass the host from having to touch the packet,
so the processing path with a VM using a VF would be the same as a non-VM.

David


> 
>>> you'll find that passing the PF to the guests should be pretty close to
>>> that 185us latency.  I would assume (hope) the higher end NICs reduce
>>
>> About that 185usec: do you know where the bottleneck is? It seems as if
>> the packet is held in some queue waiting for an event/timeout before it
>> is transmitted.
> 
> I don't know specifically, I don't do much network performance tuning.
> Interrupt coalescing could be a factor, along with various offload
> settings, and of course latency of the physical NIC hardware and
> interconnects.  Thanks,
> 
> Alex
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-25 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-21  1:57 performance of virtual functions compared to virtio David Ahern
2011-04-21  2:35 ` Alex Williamson
2011-04-21  8:07   ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-21 12:31     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-04-21 13:09       ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-25 17:49         ` David Ahern
2011-04-26  8:19           ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-27 21:13             ` David Ahern
2011-04-28  8:07               ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-25 17:46     ` David Ahern
2011-04-26  8:20       ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-25 17:39   ` David Ahern
2011-04-25 18:13     ` Alex Williamson
2011-04-25 19:07       ` David Ahern
2011-04-25 19:29         ` Alex Williamson
2011-04-25 19:49           ` David Ahern
2011-04-25 20:27             ` Alex Williamson
2011-04-25 20:40               ` David Ahern [this message]
2011-04-25 21:02                 ` Alex Williamson
2011-04-25 21:14                   ` David Ahern
2011-04-25 21:18                     ` Alex Williamson
2011-04-25 20:49             ` Andrew Theurer
2011-05-02 18:58         ` David Ahern

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