From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memory: transaction API
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:50:02 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E282E8A.40606@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E2826E1.6090404@siemens.com>
On 07/21/2011 04:17 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-07-21 14:58, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > On 07/21/2011 03:52 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The problem is that "update" can change lots of things. offset, size,
> >>> whether it's mmio or RAM, read-onlyness, even the wierd things like
> >>> coalesced mmio. So it's either a function with 324.2 parameters (or a
> >>> large struct), or it's a series of functions with demarcation as to
> >>> where the update begins and ends.
> >>
> >> We do not need to provide update support for each and every bit, but for
> >> the common cases. memory_region_update_alias(region, offset, size) would
> >> be an excellent first candidate IMO.
> >
> > It's not enough, look at cirrus and PAM.
>
> It's a perfect fit for cirrus, but PAM indeed requires set_readonly in
> addition.
>
It isn't a pefect fit for cirrus. If the mode changes in a way that
makes mapping the map as RAM possible, or vice versa, and if the banks
are contiguous, then _update() results in two mappings or unmappings,
while _commit() results in just one (since m_r_update_topology() merges
the two adjacent regions).
> I also think now that describing a memory region offline via a struct
> and then passing that to an atomic add/del/update would be a more handy
> and future-proof API than an increasing number set functions.
Maybe. But it's not sufficient for atomic changes involving multiple
regions.
btw, there is another implementation issue involving SMP - if a region
that obscures the middle of another region is removed, we'll have two
regions removed and replaced with a larger one. That causes some memory
to be temporarily inaccessible. I don't think it's a problem in
practice, but if it is, we can fix it by stopping all vcpus if we detect
this condition, and by adding an atomic
change-memory-map-and-get-dirty-log ioctl to kvm.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-21 13:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-21 10:21 [PATCH] memory: transaction API Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 10:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-21 12:05 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 12:08 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 12:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-21 12:13 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 12:52 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-21 12:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 13:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-21 13:50 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-07-21 14:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-21 14:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 15:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-21 15:11 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 11:04 ` Ferry Huberts
2011-07-21 12:07 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 12:26 ` Ferry Huberts
2011-07-21 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-21 12:56 ` Ferry Huberts
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