From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
mingo@elte.hu, avi@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, gorcunov@gmail.com, asias.hejun@gmail.com,
prasadjoshi124@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Native Linux KVM tool for 3.1
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:59:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E2D6896.5010008@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1311580201.3446.30.camel@lappy>
On 07/25/2011 09:50 AM, Sasha Levin wrote:
> Anthony had a talk on last years KVM forum regarding the QEMU threading
> model (slide:
> http://www.linux-kvm.org/wiki/images/7/70/2010-forum-threading-qemu.pdf) .
>
> It was suggested that the KVM part of QEMU is having a hard time
> achieving the ideal threading model due to its need to support TCG -
> something which has nothing to do with KVM itself.
No, it is not having a hard time. The "foot in the door" that Anthony
mentions has been part of QEMU and qemu-kvm for a long time
(multi-threading is necessary to support SMP!) and works quite well.
Historically, there were three main loops:
1) QEMU single-threaded;
2) QEMU multi-threaded; clean, but buggy, untested and bitrotting;
3) qemu-kvm multi-threaded, forked from (1), ugly but robust and widely
deployed.
In 0.15 the two multi-threaded versions have been unified by Jan Kiszka.
I have even ported (2) to Windows with little or no pain; porting to
Mac OS X interestingly is harder than Windows, because non-portable
Linux assumptions about signal handling have crept in the code (to
preempt the objections: they weren't just non-portabilities, they were
latent bugs). Windows just does not have signals. :)
So, right now, the only difference is that QEMU is still defaulting to
the single-threaded main loop, while qemu-kvm enables multi-threading by
default. In some time even QEMU will switch.
Yes, this is of course worse than getting it right in the first place;
Nobody is saying the opposite.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-25 12:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-24 20:37 [GIT PULL] Native Linux KVM tool for 3.1 Pekka Enberg
2011-07-24 23:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 7:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 8:14 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 8:23 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 8:31 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 13:10 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-07-25 15:05 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 8:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 8:44 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 8:51 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 8:55 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 9:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 8:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 8:37 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 8:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 9:06 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 12:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 12:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 12:51 ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-25 12:54 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 13:14 ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-25 12:51 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 13:09 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 13:29 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 9:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:42 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 10:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:21 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 10:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 12:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-25 12:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 8:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 8:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:03 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 9:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:46 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 9:48 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 10:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 11:26 ` Olivier Galibert
2011-07-25 10:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25 11:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 11:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25 11:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 11:34 ` Olivier Galibert
2011-07-25 11:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25 12:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 12:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 19:21 ` david
2011-07-25 18:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 19:43 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 7:50 ` Sasha Levin
2011-07-25 8:34 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 12:59 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2011-07-25 13:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25 1:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25 7:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 7:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-25 7:39 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-25 7:55 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <CAFO3S428qqUAu19QjPxDDAVv+eJSX0MEfYp5y03znNi6XbEtTg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-07-25 8:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-25 8:17 ` Pekka Enberg
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