From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues <lmr@redhat.com>,
KVM mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Juan Jose Quintela Carreira <quintela@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
QEMU devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu and qemu.git -> Migration + disk stress introduces qcow2 corruptions
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:41:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EBBAA5C.9010505@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EBAEA33.9090709@codemonkey.ws>
Am 09.11.2011 22:01, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> On 11/09/2011 03:00 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 02:22:02PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> On 11/09/2011 02:18 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 11:35:54AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>>> On 11/09/2011 11:02 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/09/2011 06:39 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Migration with qcow2 is not a supported feature for 1.0. Migration is
>>>>>>> only supported with raw images using coherent shared storage[1].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] NFS is only coherent with close-to-open which right now is not
>>>>>>> good enough for migration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Say what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to block format probing, we read at least the first sector of
>>>>> the disk during start up.
>>>>
>>>> A simple solution is not to do any probing before the VM is first
>>>> started on the incoming path.
>>>>
>>>> Any issues with this?
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://mid.gmane.org/1284213896-12705-4-git-send-email-aliguori@us.ibm.com
>>> I think Kevin wanted open to get delayed.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Anthony Liguori
>>
>> So, this patchset just needs to be revived and polished up?
>
> What I took from the feedback was that Kevin wanted to defer open until the
> device model started. That eliminates the need to reopen or have a invalidation
> callback.
>
> I think it would be good for Kevin to comment here though because I might have
> misunderstood his feedback.
Your approach was to delay reads, but still keep the image open. I think
I worried that we might have additional reads somewhere that we don't
know about, and this is why I proposed delaying the open as well, so
that any read would always fail.
I believe just reopening the image is (almost?) as good and it's way
easier to do, so I would be inclined to do that for 1.0.
I'm not 100% sure about cases like iscsi, where reopening doesn't help.
I think delaying the open doesn't help there either if you migrate from
A to B and then back from B to A, you could still get old data. So for
iscsi probably cache=none remains the only safe choice, whatever we do.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-10 10:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-09 16:29 qemu and qemu.git -> Migration + disk stress introduces qcow2 corruptions Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2011-11-09 16:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 17:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 17:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 19:53 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-09 20:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 21:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 21:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 10:41 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2011-11-10 16:50 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-10 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 18:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 20:57 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-10 8:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-11-10 17:50 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-10 17:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 10:20 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-12 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-10 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 18:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-10 19:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 20:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-10 20:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 21:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-11 10:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-11 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-11-11 14:29 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-11 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-11 14:44 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-11 20:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 10:27 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-12 13:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 14:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-12 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-14 9:58 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-14 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-15 13:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-11-14 10:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 10:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 11:21 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-14 11:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 11:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:37 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 11:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 11:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-11-14 11:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 14:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 13:20 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-15 13:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 19:25 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-09 23:33 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
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