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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6][RFC] virtio-blk: Change I/O path from request to BIO
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:12:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F01D750.7040304@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QWpzOGtQEULu7yz1vDEExSatGpdEPSvvDx=oNYkBveyrQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/01/2012 05:45 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> By the way, drivers for solid-state devices can set QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT
> to hint that seek time optimizations may be sub-optimal.  NBD and
> other virtual/pseudo device drivers set this flag.  Should virtio-blk
> set it and how does it affect performance?

By itself is not a good idea in general.

When QEMU uses O_DIRECT, the guest should not use QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT 
unless it is active for the host disk as well.  (In doubt, as is the 
case for remote hosts accessed over NFS, I would also avoid NONROT and 
allow more coalescing).

When QEMU doesn't use O_DIRECT, instead, using QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT and 
leaving optimizations to the host may make some sense.

In Xen, the back-end driver is bio-based, so the scenario is like QEMU 
with O_DIRECT.  I remember seeing worse performance when switching the 
front-end to either QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT or the noop scheduler.  This was 
with RHEL5 (2.6.18), but it might still be true in more recent kernels, 
modulo benchmarking of course.  Still, the current in-tree xen-blkfront 
driver does use QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT unconditionally, more precisely its 
synonym QUEUE_FLAG_VIRT.

Still, if benchmarking confirms this theory, QEMU could expose a hint 
via a feature bit.  The default could be simply "use QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT 
iff not using O_DIRECT", or it could be more complicated with help from 
sysfs.

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-02 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-21  1:00 [PATCH 0/6][RFC] virtio-blk: Change I/O path from request to BIO Minchan Kim
2011-12-21  1:00 ` [PATCH 1/6] block: add bio_map_sg Minchan Kim
2011-12-21  1:00 ` [PATCH 2/6] virtio: support unlocked queue kick Minchan Kim
2011-12-21  1:00 ` [PATCH 3/6] virtio-blk: remove the unused list of pending requests Minchan Kim
2011-12-21  1:00 ` [PATCH 4/6] virtio-blk: implement ->make_request Minchan Kim
2011-12-22 12:20   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-22 20:28     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-12-21  1:00 ` [PATCH 5/6] virtio-blk: Support batch I/O for enhancing sequential IO Minchan Kim
2011-12-21  1:00 ` [PATCH 6/6] virtio-blk: Emulate Flush/FUA Minchan Kim
2011-12-21  5:08 ` [PATCH 0/6][RFC] virtio-blk: Change I/O path from request to BIO Rusty Russell
2011-12-21  5:56   ` Minchan Kim
2011-12-21  8:28 ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-21  8:17   ` Minchan Kim
2011-12-21 19:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-22  1:05   ` Minchan Kim
2011-12-22 15:45     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-22 23:26       ` Minchan Kim
2011-12-22 12:57 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-22 23:41   ` Minchan Kim
2012-01-01 16:45     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-02  7:48       ` Dor Laor
2012-01-02 16:12       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-01-02 16:15         ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-02 16:18           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-01-02 16:23             ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-02 16:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-02 16:21         ` Avi Kivity

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