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From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] KVM: improve trace events of vmexit/mmio/ioport
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:34:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F1659ED.6030403@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F162F28.4010001@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 01/17/2012 07:32 PM, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>> There is an ongoing 'discussion' about modifying existing tracepoints
>> which your proposed patch violates. This is the start of it:
>>
> 
> 
> Hmm, i think we can still add completed tracepoints in the new version kernel,
> if old version kernel is used, we can fall back to use kvm_entry instead?

Yes, new ones are ok. I was referring to the tracepoints like kvm_pio
where you added the vcpu_id. And it is not really necessary: with
kvm_entry tracepoints it is easy to correlate vcpu to tid and even
without you still get thread base samples so events happening on a
thread are all the sample vcpu (even if you don't know whether that is
vcpu 0, 1, 2, etc).

> 
> And there is a exception for mmio read, in current code, the mmio read event is
> actually used to trace the time when then read emulation is completed, i think
> we can add a tracepoint like mmio_read_begin to trace the start time of mmio read.
> So:
> - for the new kernel, we use mmio_read_begion and kvm_mmio(READ...) to calculate
>   start time and end time.
> - for the old kernel, we use kvm_exit and kvm_mmio(READ...) to calculate start time
>   and end time.
> 
> Your idea?
> 

I did play around with it a bit more today.

My concern would be adding more events may make things more precise, but
it adds more overhead and I am not sure the precision is worth it. For
example on my laptop (Penryn Core 2; a lab server with a xeon E5560
processor is much faster):

0.000002 kvm_exit reason IO_INSTRUCTION rip 0x806d0e30 info 710048 0
0.000003     kvm_emulate_insn 0:806d0e30: e4 71
0.000001     kvm_pio pio_read at 0x71 size 1 count 1
0.000001     kvm_userspace_exit reason KVM_EXIT_IO (2)
0.000003     kvm_set_irq gsi 8 level 0 source 0
0.000001     kvm_pic_set_irq chip 1 pin 0 (edge|masked)
0.000001     kvm_ioapic_set_irq pin 8 dst 1 vec=209 (Fixed|logical|edge)
         total exit time: 0.000016

The first column is the delta-time between successive events for a vcpu.
Most of those events are in the rounded up microsecond range. Moving on
to the subsequent kvm_entry shows a total VMENTRY run time of 5 usecs:
ie., 16 usecs on a VMEXIT with 7 tracepoints and 5 usecs spent in a VMENTRY.

What I am getting at is that the cost of the tracepoints becomes a
significant overhead. If it costs 500nsec or 1usec to generate an event
and the time in a VMENTRY is only 5 usecs the tracepoint is a large part
of the time.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-18  5:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-16  9:30 [RFC][PATCH] KVM: perf: a smart tool to analyse kvm events Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-16  9:31 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: trace mmio read event properly Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-16 10:18   ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-17  2:36     ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-16  9:32 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: improve trace events of vmexit/mmio/ioport Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-16  9:38   ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-17  2:28     ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-17 11:55       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-17 17:31         ` David Ahern
2012-01-18  2:32           ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-18  5:34             ` David Ahern [this message]
2012-01-24 12:44       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16  9:32 ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: perf: kvm events analysis tool Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-16 10:04   ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-17  2:30     ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-24 12:49       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16 10:08   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-17  2:37     ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-17 11:59     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-24 12:51       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16 10:11 ` [RFC][PATCH] KVM: perf: a smart tool to analyse kvm events Avi Kivity
2012-01-17  2:30   ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-16 22:53 ` David Ahern
2012-01-17  2:41   ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-01-17  4:49     ` David Ahern

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