From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, gleb@redhat.com, joerg.roedel@amd.com,
yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp, mtosatti@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] KVM: x86 emulator: Allow PM/VM86 switch during task switch
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:23:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F2699CE.4000506@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F267981.20100@redhat.com>
On 01/30/2012 01:05 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 30.01.2012 11:24, schrieb Avi Kivity:
> > On 01/27/2012 09:23 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> >> Task switches can switch between Protected Mode and VM86. The current
> >> mode must be updated during the task switch emulation so that the new
> >> segment selectors are interpreted correctly and privilege checks
> >> succeed.
> >>
> >> VMX code calculates the CPL from the code segment selector and rflags,
> >> so it needs rflags to be updated in the vcpu struct. SVM stores the DPL
> >> of the code segment instead, so we must be sure to give the right one
> >> when updating the selector.
> >
> > svm has vmcb_save_area::cpl; it's independent of CS.RPL.
>
> Right, but cpl in the VMCB is updated when you reload a segment (and I
> think only then),
Gah, it's broken. It should be qualified by more - real mode should
keep cpl at zero, vm86 at 3. And setting rflags.vm86 should update cpl
as well.
For example, live migration while in real mode with cs&3!=0 or in vm86
mode with cs&3==0 would set the wrong cpl.
> so it's closely related.
>
> >> ctxt->ops->get_segment(ctxt, &dummy, &desc, &base3, seg);
> >> +
> >> + if (ctxt->mode == X86EMUL_MODE_REAL)
> >> + desc.dpl = 0;
> >
> > Can't happen.
>
> set_segment_selector is only called during task switches right now, so
> yes, this is impossible. Want me to drop the check? Or BUG()?
BUG()s are dangerous in rarely used code since they can be exploited as
a DoS. So maybe a WARN_ON_ONCE().
> >> @@ -2273,6 +2281,24 @@ static int load_state_from_tss32(struct x86_emulate_ctxt *ctxt,
> >> return emulate_gp(ctxt, 0);
> >> ctxt->_eip = tss->eip;
> >> ctxt->eflags = tss->eflags | 2;
> >> +
> >> + /*
> >> + * If we're switching between Protected Mode and VM86, we need to make
> >> + * sure to update the mode before loading the segment descriptors so
> >> + * that the selectors are interpreted correctly.
> >> + *
> >> + * Need to get it to the vcpu struct immediately because it influences
> >> + * the CPL which is checked at least when loading the segment
> >> + * descriptors and when pushing an error code to the new kernel stack.
> >> + */
> >> + if (ctxt->eflags & X86_EFLAGS_VM)
> >> + ctxt->mode = X86EMUL_MODE_VM86;
> >> + else
> >> + ctxt->mode = X86EMUL_MODE_PROT32;
> >> +
> >
> > Shouldn't this be done after the set_segment_selector() block? My
> > interpretation of the SDM is that if a fault happens while loading
> > descriptors the fault happens with old segment cache, that is, it needs
> > to be interpreted according to the old mode.
>
> This is closely related to my argument with Gleb whether CPL changes
> when rflags is reloaded or if it only happens when cs is reloaded. I
> argued that it makes more sense to couple it with cs, so I guess I have
> to agree with you mostly.
>
> The SDM says that any faults during loading the segment descriptors
> happen in the context of the new task, and the task switch is completed
> before an exception is generated. So it shouldn't make any difference to
> the guest what the exact point is at which we change CPL, it's an KVM
> internal decision.
>
> So what about this order:
>
> 1. Reload general purpose registers and eflags without updating mode
> or writing back rflags to the vcpu struct.
>
> 2. Load segment selectors without changing the DPL yet.
(or changing anything in the segment cache)
>
> 3. Load segment descriptors, and disable the privilege checks in
> load_segment_descriptor using a new flag.
I don't like doing things that aren't directly traceable to the SDM.
Perhaps we should pass the cpl as a parameter to
load_segment_descriptor(). Or we should ->set_cpl() just before.
> For SVM, this updates
> the CPL when cs is reloaded.
>
> 4. Call ctxt->ops.set_rflag so that VMX updates the CPL. Should be
> cleaned up in a follow-up patch, so that VMX uses set_segment
> to update the CPL, like SVM does.
>
> Would this match your interpretation?
Not exactly. I claim that the cpl is a separate state from
cs.cpl/ss.rpl/cr0.pe/eflags.vm - it cannot be derived just from those.
On the transition from real mode to protected mode, you can have (say)
cs=0x13 and cpl=0.
Outside of mode switches, it's good to have set_segment() update the cpl
automatically. But inside mode switches it can screw up further checks
or aborts.
> >> static int emulator_get_cpl(struct x86_emulate_ctxt *ctxt)
> >> {
> >> return kvm_x86_ops->get_cpl(emul_to_vcpu(ctxt));
> >> @@ -4199,6 +4204,7 @@ static struct x86_emulate_ops emulate_ops = {
> >> .set_idt = emulator_set_idt,
> >> .get_cr = emulator_get_cr,
> >> .set_cr = emulator_set_cr,
> >> + .set_rflags = emulator_set_rflags,
> >> .cpl = emulator_get_cpl,
> >> .get_dr = emulator_get_dr,
> >> .set_dr = emulator_set_dr,
> >
> > It would be good to switch the entire emulator to use ->set_rflags()
> > instead of sometimes letting the caller do it.
>
> If we change the CPL only with a cs reload, set_rflags can be dropped
> completely in the end.
That's attractive, yes.
Suppose load_segment_descriptor(..., VCPU_SREG_LDTR) fails. What should
the new cpl be? Does it matter?
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-30 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-27 19:23 [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix task switches into/out of VM86 Kevin Wolf
2012-01-27 19:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] KVM: x86 emulator: Fix task switch privilege checks Kevin Wolf
2012-01-30 10:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 11:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-01-27 19:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] KVM: x86 emulator: VM86 segments must have DPL 3 Kevin Wolf
2012-01-27 19:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] KVM: x86 emulator: Allow PM/VM86 switch during task switch Kevin Wolf
2012-01-30 10:24 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 10:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 12:02 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 12:04 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 13:24 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 11:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-01-30 11:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 13:23 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-01-30 14:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-01-30 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 15:26 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-01-30 15:44 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 15:55 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-01-31 9:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-31 10:26 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-27 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix task switches into/out of VM86 Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 8:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-01-30 8:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 10:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 10:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-01-30 10:45 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 10:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 12:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 12:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 13:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-30 13:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-30 10:47 ` Gleb Natapov
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