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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Attilio Rao <attilio.rao@citrix.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Stephan Diestelhorst <stephan.diestelhorst@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:42:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F8C4BEA.8040601@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1334594195.14560.236.camel@zakaz.uk.xensource.com>

On 04/16/2012 09:36 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 16:44 +0100, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 09:37:45AM +0530, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
>>> * Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> [2012-03-31 00:07:58]:
>>>
>>>> I know that Peter is going to go berserk on me, but if we are running
>>>> a paravirt guest then it's simple to provide a mechanism which allows
>>>> the host (aka hypervisor) to check that in the guest just by looking
>>>> at some global state.
>>>>
>>>> So if a guest exits due to an external event it's easy to inspect the
>>>> state of that guest and avoid to schedule away when it was interrupted
>>>> in a spinlock held section. That guest/host shared state needs to be
>>>> modified to indicate the guest to invoke an exit when the last nested
>>>> lock has been released.
>>> I had attempted something like that long back:
>>>
>>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/6/3/4
>>>
>>> The issue is with ticketlocks though. VCPUs could go into a spin w/o
>>> a lock being held by anybody. Say VCPUs 1-99 try to grab a lock in
>>> that order (on a host with one cpu). VCPU1 wins (after VCPU0 releases it)
>>> and releases the lock. VCPU1 is next eligible to take the lock. If 
>>> that is not scheduled early enough by host, then remaining vcpus would keep 
>>> spinning (even though lock is technically not held by anybody) w/o making 
>>> forward progress.
>>>
>>> In that situation, what we really need is for the guest to hint to host
>>> scheduler to schedule VCPU1 early (via yield_to or something similar). 
>>>
>>> The current pv-spinlock patches however does not track which vcpu is
>>> spinning at what head of the ticketlock. I suppose we can consider 
>>> that optimization in future and see how much benefit it provides (over
>>> plain yield/sleep the way its done now).
>> Right. I think Jeremy played around with this some time?
> 5/11 "xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks" tracks
> which vcpus are waiting for a lock in "cpumask_t waiting_cpus" and
> tracks which lock each is waiting for in per-cpu "lock_waiting". This is
> used in xen_unlock_kick to kick the right CPU. There's a loop over only
> the waiting cpus to figure out who to kick.

Yes, and AFAIK the KVM pv-ticketlock patches do the same thing.  If a
(V)CPU is asleep, then sending it a kick is pretty much equivalent to a
yield to (not precisely, but it should get scheduled soon enough, and it
won't be competing with a pile of VCPUs with no useful work to do).

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-16 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-21 10:20 [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC V6 1/11] x86/spinlock: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 13:04   ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 13:22     ` Stephan Diestelhorst
2012-03-21 13:49       ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 14:25         ` Stephan Diestelhorst
2012-03-21 14:33           ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 14:49             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 2/11] x86/ticketlock: don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 17:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-22 10:06     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 3/11] x86/ticketlock: collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 4/11] xen: defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 5/11] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 6/11] xen/pvticketlocks: add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 7/11] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 8/11] x86/pvticketlock: when paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 9/11] x86/ticketlock: add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 10/11] xen/pvticketlock: allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 11/11] xen: enable PV ticketlocks on HVM Xen Raghavendra K T
2012-03-26 14:25 ` [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Avi Kivity
2012-03-27  7:37   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-28 16:09     ` Alan Meadows
2012-03-28 18:21       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-29  9:58         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-29 18:03           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-30 10:07             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:18               ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:48                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:53                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:56                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02  9:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02 12:15                       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  9:01                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-05 10:40                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  8:43                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-28 16:37     ` Alan Meadows
2012-03-30 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-30 22:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-30 22:18     ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-30 23:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-31  0:08         ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-31  8:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-31  4:07     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-31  4:09       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-16 15:44       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-16 16:36         ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-04-16 16:42           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2012-04-17  2:54           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-01 13:31     ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-05  9:15         ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  4:36     ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2012-04-02  9:42     ` Ian Campbell
2012-04-11  1:29     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-31  0:51   ` Raghavendra K T

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