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From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Takuya Yoshikawa <takuya.yoshikawa@gmail.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/10] KVM: MMU: fast path of handling guest page fault
Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 20:09:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA27578.1010509@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120502211031.GB12604@amt.cnet>

On 05/03/2012 05:10 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:

> On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 01:39:51PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>> On 04/29/2012 04:50 PM, Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:52:13 -0300
>>> Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes but the objective you are aiming for is to read and write sptes
>>>> without mmu_lock. That is, i am not talking about this patch. 
>>>> Please read carefully the two examples i gave (separated by "example)").
>>>
>>> The real objective is not still clear.
>>>
>>> The ~10% improvement reported before was on macro benchmarks during live
>>> migration.  At least, that optimization was the initial objective.
>>>
>>> But at some point, the objective suddenly changed to "lock-less" without
>>> understanding what introduced the original improvement.
>>>
>>> Was the problem really mmu_lock contention?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Takuya, i am so tired to argue the advantage of lockless write-protect
>> and lockless O(1) dirty-log again and again.
> 
> His point is valid: there is a lack of understanding on the details of
> the improvement.
> 


Actually, the improvement of lockless is that it can let vcpu to be parallel
as possible.

>From the test result, lockless gains little improvement for unix-migration,
in this case, the vcpus are almost idle (at least not busy).

The large improvement is from dbench-migration, in this case, all vcpus are
busy accessing memory which is write-protected by dirty-log. If you enable
page-fault/fast-page-fault tracepoints, you can see huge number of page fault
from different vcpu during the migration.

> Did you see the pahole output on struct kvm? Apparently mmu_lock is
> sharing a cacheline with read-intensive memslots pointer. It would be 
> interesting to see what are the effects of cacheline aligning mmu_lock.
> 


Yes, i see that. In my test .config, i have enabled
CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK/CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC, mmu-lock is not sharing cacheline
with memslots. That means it is not a problem during my test.
(BTW, pahole can not work on my box, it shows:
......
DW_AT_<0x3c>=0x19
DW_AT_<0x3c>=0x19
DW_AT_<0x3c>=0x19
die__process_function: DW_TAG_INVALID (0x4109) @ <0x12886> not handled!
)

If we reorganize 'struct kvm', i guess it is good for kvm but it can not improve
too much for migration. :)

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-03 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-25  4:00 [PATCH v4 00/10] KVM: MMU: fast page fault Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-25  4:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] KVM: MMU: return bool in __rmap_write_protect Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-25  4:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] KVM: MMU: abstract spte write-protect Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-25  4:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] KVM: VMX: export PFEC.P bit on ept Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-25  4:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] KVM: MMU: introduce SPTE_MMU_WRITEABLE bit Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-25  4:03 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] KVM: MMU: introduce SPTE_WRITE_PROTECT bit Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-25  4:03 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] KVM: MMU: fast path of handling guest page fault Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-26 23:45   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-04-27  5:53     ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-27 14:52       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-04-28  6:10         ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-05-01  1:34           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-05-02  5:28             ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-05-02 21:07               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-05-03 11:26                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-05-05 14:08                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-05-06  9:36                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-07  6:52                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-29  8:50         ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-05-01  2:31           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-05-02  5:39           ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-05-02 21:10             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-05-03 12:09               ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2012-05-03 12:13                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-03  0:15             ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-05-03 12:23               ` Xiao Guangrong
2012-05-03 12:40                 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-04-25  4:04 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] KVM: MMU: lockless update spte on fast page fault path Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-25  4:04 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] KVM: MMU: trace fast page fault Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-25  4:05 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] KVM: MMU: fix kvm_mmu_pagetable_walk tracepoint Xiao Guangrong
2012-04-25  4:06 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] KVM: MMU: document mmu-lock and fast page fault Xiao Guangrong

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