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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Abel Gordon <ABELG@il.ibm.com>
Cc: Alex Landau <LALEX@il.ibm.com>,
	Dan Tsafrir <dan.tsafrir@gmail.com>,
	sheng qiu <herbert1984106@gmail.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@cs.technion.ac.il>,
	Nadav Har'El <NYH@il.ibm.com>, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KVM handling external interrupts
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:16:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD473E1.6070302@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFD69C1014.A5F32AB6-ONC2257A19.002F2CA1-C2257A19.002FBCF4@il.ibm.com>

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On 2012-06-10 10:41, Abel Gordon wrote:
> Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de> wrote on 07/06/2012 18:05:55:
> 
>> It remains a fragile approach:
>>  - host-side reverse translations may not return a stable result, thus
>>    may require to redo this step several times
>>  - the guest may decide to remove/disable the device you chose for
>>    appending the IDT
>>  - changing the real BAR size can confuse the guest, or it only maps
>>    what it requires of the real device
>> That's why I consider it nasty.
> 
> Yep, these are corner cases we should deal with but they are not part
> of the common case/critical path.
> 
>> I'm wondering if redirecting (to different cores) or masking (at
>> device/IOAPIC/LAPIC level) of non-guest interrupts and only relying on
>> preemption timer/NMI isn't simpler. Then you wouldn't have to shadow the
>> IDT.
> 
> Yep, as we suggested in the paper, that could be also an alternative.
> Is it really simpler ? Again, depends who you ask and what you need to
> change.
> All the alternatives have a set of pros and cons.
> 

For sure. But avoiding the shadow IDT would likely mean avoiding
userspace changes for KVM. And that means simplification. And avoid PCI
dependencies.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-10 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-07  0:12 KVM handling external interrupts sheng qiu
2012-06-07  7:51 ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07  8:13   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07  9:02     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 10:47       ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07 10:51         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 11:05           ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07 11:13             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 11:51               ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07 11:54                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 12:02                   ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07 11:10           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 11:49             ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07 12:11               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 12:25                 ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07 15:05                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10  8:41                     ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-10 10:16                       ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-06-10 10:43                         ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-10 12:16                           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 13:30                             ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07  9:55     ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07 10:23       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 10:34         ` Nadav Har'El
2012-06-07 10:48           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 11:40       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 12:17         ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07 12:19           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-07 12:32             ` Abel Gordon
2012-06-07 15:07               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-06-10 10:12                 ` Abel Gordon

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