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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, David Kaplan <david.kaplan@amd.com>,
	Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	Tao Zhang <tao1.zhang@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/11] x86/bhi: Make clear_bhb_loop() effective on newer CPUs
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 08:40:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ed6763b-1a88-4254-b063-be652176d1af@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251119-vmscape-bhb-v4-4-1adad4e69ddc@linux.intel.com>

On 11/19/25 22:18, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> -	CLEAR_BHB_LOOP_SEQ 5, 5
> +	/* loop count differs based on CPU-gen, see Intel's BHI guidance */
> +	ALTERNATIVE (CLEAR_BHB_LOOP_SEQ 5, 5),  \
> +		    __stringify(CLEAR_BHB_LOOP_SEQ 12, 7), X86_FEATURE_BHI_CTRL

There are a million ways to skin this cat. But I'm not sure I really
like the end result here. It seems a little overkill to use ALTERNATIVE
to rewrite a whole sequence just to patch two constants in there.

What if the CLEAR_BHB_LOOP_SEQ just took its inner and outer loop counts
as register arguments? Then this would look more like:

	ALTERNATIVE "mov  $5, %rdi; mov $5, %rsi",
		    "mov $12, %rdi; mov $7, %rsi",
	...

	CLEAR_BHB_LOOP_SEQ

Or, even global variables:

	mov outer_loop_count(%rip), %rdi
	mov inner_loop_count(%rip), %rsi

and then have some C code somewhere that does:

	if (cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_BHI_CTRL)) {
		outer_loop_count = 5;
		inner_loop_count = 5;
	} else {
		outer_loop_count = 12;
		inner_loop_count = 7;
	}

... and I'm sure I got something wrong in there like flipping the
inner/outer counts, and I'm not even thinking about the variable types.

But, basically, I think I want to avoid as much logic as possible in
assembly. I also think we should reserve ALTERNATIVE for things that
truly need it, like things that are truly performance sensitive or that
can't reach out and poke at variables.

Peter Z. usually has good instincts on these things, so I'm curious what
he thinks of all this.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-21 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-20  6:17 [PATCH v4 00/11] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:17 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] x86/bhi: x86/vmscape: Move LFENCE out of clear_bhb_loop() Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20 16:15   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20 16:56     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20 16:58       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20  6:18 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] x86/bhi: Move the BHB sequence to a macro for reuse Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20 16:28   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20 16:57     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-25  0:21   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:18 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] x86/bhi: Make the depth of BHB-clearing configurable Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20 17:02   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20  6:18 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] x86/bhi: Make clear_bhb_loop() effective on newer CPUs Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 12:33   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-21 16:40   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2025-11-21 16:45     ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-21 16:50       ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-21 18:16         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 18:42           ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-21 21:26             ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 21:36               ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-24 19:21                 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-22 11:05               ` david laight
2025-11-24 19:31                 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-25 11:34                   ` david laight
2025-12-04  1:40                     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-12-04  9:15                       ` david laight
2025-12-04 21:56                         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-12-05  9:21                           ` david laight
2025-11-26 19:23     ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-06 21:00   ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-06 22:32     ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-06 22:57       ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-06 23:29         ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-07  0:35           ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-07  1:00             ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-07  1:10               ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-07  2:41                 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-07  5:05                   ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-09 22:29                     ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-09 23:05                       ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-10  0:00                         ` Pawan Gupta
2026-03-10  0:08                           ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-10  0:52                             ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:18 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] x86/vmscape: Rename x86_ibpb_exit_to_user to x86_predictor_flush_exit_to_user Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:19 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] x86/vmscape: Move mitigation selection to a switch() Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 14:27   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-24 23:09     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-25 10:19       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-25 17:45         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:19 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] x86/vmscape: Use write_ibpb() instead of indirect_branch_prediction_barrier() Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 12:59   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20  6:19 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] x86/vmscape: Use static_call() for predictor flush Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:19 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] x86/vmscape: Deploy BHB clearing mitigation Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 14:18   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-21 18:29     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 14:23   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-21 18:41     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 18:53       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-21 21:29         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-20  6:20 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] x86/vmscape: Override conflicting attack-vector controls with =force Pawan Gupta
2025-11-21 18:04   ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-20  6:20 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] x86/vmscape: Add cmdline vmscape=on to override attack vector controls Pawan Gupta
2025-11-25 11:41   ` Nikolay Borisov

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