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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@au1.ibm.com>, <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Reset problem vs. MMIO emulation, hypercalls, etc...
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 15:25:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50202845.2050605@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501E361A.3030105@redhat.com>

On 08/05/2012 04:00 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 08/04/2012 01:32 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>> On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 15:05 -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>
>>> See kvm_arch_process_async_events() call to qemu_system_reset_request()
>>> in target-i386/kvm.c.
>>>
>>> The whole thing is fragile, though: we rely on the order events
>>> are processed inside KVM_RUN, in x86:
>>>
>>> 1) If there is pending MMIO, process it.
>>> 2) If not, return with -EINTR (and KVM_EXIT_INTR) in case
>>> there is a signal pending.
>>>
>>> That way, the vcpu will not process the stop event from the main loop
>>> (ie not exit from the kvm_cpu_exec() loop), until MMIO is finished.
>>
>> Right, it is fragile, thankfully we appear to adhere to the same
>> ordering on powerpc so far :-)
>>
>> So we'll need to test but it looks like we might be able to fix our
>> problem without a kernel or API change, just by changing qemu to
>> do the same exit_request trick for our reboot hypercall.
>>
>> Long run however, I wonder whether we should consider an explicit ioctl
>> to complete those pending operations instead...
> 
> It's pointless.  We have to support the old method forever.

Not in new architectures (even PPC has yet to start using this) or new
userspaces -- and forever is a long time.  People down the road may very
well decide that it's time to clean out the deprecated stuff that hasn't
been used in over a decade.  IMHO this shouldn't be a reason to
not improve the API, as long as compatibility is possible for as long as
it is deemed worthwhile.

> There's no
> material different between sigqueue() + KVM_RUN and KVM_COMPLETE, or a
> KVM_RUN with a flag that tells it to exit immediately.

The latter is less fragile and easier to use.

-Scott

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-06 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-01  3:17 Reset problem vs. MMIO emulation, hypercalls, etc Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-02 10:46 ` Alexander Graf
2012-08-02 12:22   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-02 12:35 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-02 12:59   ` Alexander Graf
2012-08-02 13:05     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-02 20:29       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-05  8:55         ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 20:45           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-02 20:20   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-03 17:41     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-03 18:05       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-03 22:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-05  9:00           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 20:25             ` Scott Wood [this message]
2012-08-07  8:44               ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 20:54             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-03 22:30       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-06  3:13         ` David Gibson
2012-08-06 20:57           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-07  1:32             ` David Gibson
2012-08-07  8:46               ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-07 12:14                 ` David Gibson
2012-08-07 13:13                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-07 21:09                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-08  8:52                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08  9:27                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-08  0:49                     ` David Gibson
2012-08-08  8:58                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-08 11:59                         ` David Gibson
2012-08-08 12:42                           ` Avi Kivity

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