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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: seabios@seabios.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tsc: use kvmclock for calibration
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:57:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5023C1D2.5090103@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5023B2C4.90302@redhat.com>

  Hi,

>> +u64 kvm_tsc_khz(void)
>> +{
>> +    u32 eax, ebx, ecx, edx, msr;
>> +    struct pvclock_vcpu_time_info time;
>> +    u32 addr = (u32)(&time);
>> +    u64 khz;
>> +
>> +    /* check presence and figure msr number */
>> +    cpuid(KVM_CPUID_FEATURES, &eax, &ebx, &ecx, &edx);
>> +    if (eax & KVM_FEATURE_CLOCKSOURCE2) {
>> +        msr = MSR_KVM_SYSTEM_TIME_NEW;
>> +    } else if (eax & KVM_FEATURE_CLOCKSOURCE) {
>> +        msr = MSR_KVM_SYSTEM_TIME;
>> +    } else {
>> +        return 0;
>> +    }
>> +
>> +    /* ask kvm hypervisor to fill struct */
>> +    memset(&time, 0, sizeof(time));
>> +    wrmsr(msr, addr | 1);
> 
> How can this work?

It did in my testing, although maybe by pure luck ...

> There is a 64-byte alignment requirement.

64 bytes?  Sure?  The whole struct is only 32 bytes in size ...

Easily fixable though, just need to grab some memory with memalign
instead of using the stack.

>> +    wrmsr(msr, 0);
>> +    if (time.version < 2 || time.tsc_to_system_mul == 0)
>> +        return 0;
>> +
>> +    /* go figure tsc frequency */
>> +    khz = pvclock_tsc_khz(&time);
>> +    dprintf(1, "Using kvmclock, msr 0x%x, tsc %d MHz\n",
>> +            msr, (u32)khz / 1000);
>> +    return khz;
> 
> That's a meaningless number.  You can be migrated to a cpu or a machine
> with very different tsc.

> You want accurate time on kvm, don't use the tsc.

seabios uses the tsc for timeout calculations only, so it doesn't need
to be 100% accurate.  The order of magnitude should be correct though.
The Linux kernel uses the value for delay loops too, so using it for the
given purpose can't be *that* horrible after all ...

It is certainly an improvement over the current code which tries to
calibrate the tsc and gets totally broken results in case the busy host
happens to schedule the guest in the middle of calibration.

So what do you suggest?  The options I see are:

  (1) Use this patch (with alignment issue fixed of course).
  (2) Do a full kvmclock implementation.  Feels a bit like overkill.
  (3) SeaBIOS can fallback to the PIT for timing on machines which
      have no TSC.  We could do that too in case we detect kvm ...

cheers,
  Gerd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-09 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-09 11:57 [PATCH] tsc: use kvmclock for calibration Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-09 12:53 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 13:25   ` [SeaBIOS] " Fred .
2012-08-09 13:57   ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2012-08-09 14:01     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 14:05       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 14:12         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-09 14:17           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 14:18       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-09 14:20         ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 19:02           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-12 10:56             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 19:09       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-10  7:18         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-10  7:30           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-10  8:10         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-10 21:26           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-13 10:37             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-13 10:46               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-13 12:55                 ` [SeaBIOS] " Fred .
2012-08-12  9:00           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 18:59   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-12  9:01     ` Avi Kivity

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