From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: seabios@seabios.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tsc: use kvmclock for calibration
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:01:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5023C2BE.5070702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5023C1D2.5090103@redhat.com>
On 08/09/2012 04:57 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>> +u64 kvm_tsc_khz(void)
>>> +{
>>> + u32 eax, ebx, ecx, edx, msr;
>>> + struct pvclock_vcpu_time_info time;
>>> + u32 addr = (u32)(&time);
>>> + u64 khz;
>>> +
>>> + /* check presence and figure msr number */
>>> + cpuid(KVM_CPUID_FEATURES, &eax, &ebx, &ecx, &edx);
>>> + if (eax & KVM_FEATURE_CLOCKSOURCE2) {
>>> + msr = MSR_KVM_SYSTEM_TIME_NEW;
>>> + } else if (eax & KVM_FEATURE_CLOCKSOURCE) {
>>> + msr = MSR_KVM_SYSTEM_TIME;
>>> + } else {
>>> + return 0;
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> + /* ask kvm hypervisor to fill struct */
>>> + memset(&time, 0, sizeof(time));
>>> + wrmsr(msr, addr | 1);
>>
>> How can this work?
>
> It did in my testing, although maybe by pure luck ...
>
>> There is a 64-byte alignment requirement.
>
> 64 bytes? Sure? The whole struct is only 32 bytes in size ...
er, the documentation says 4 bytes (so stack alignment works). I
distinctly remember having a large alignment requirement so we don't
cross a page or slot boundary... something's wrong here.
>
> Easily fixable though, just need to grab some memory with memalign
> instead of using the stack.
>
>>> + wrmsr(msr, 0);
>>> + if (time.version < 2 || time.tsc_to_system_mul == 0)
>>> + return 0;
>>> +
>>> + /* go figure tsc frequency */
>>> + khz = pvclock_tsc_khz(&time);
>>> + dprintf(1, "Using kvmclock, msr 0x%x, tsc %d MHz\n",
>>> + msr, (u32)khz / 1000);
>>> + return khz;
>>
>> That's a meaningless number. You can be migrated to a cpu or a machine
>> with very different tsc.
>
>> You want accurate time on kvm, don't use the tsc.
>
> seabios uses the tsc for timeout calculations only, so it doesn't need
> to be 100% accurate. The order of magnitude should be correct though.
> The Linux kernel uses the value for delay loops too, so using it for the
> given purpose can't be *that* horrible after all ...
>
> It is certainly an improvement over the current code which tries to
> calibrate the tsc and gets totally broken results in case the busy host
> happens to schedule the guest in the middle of calibration.
>
> So what do you suggest? The options I see are:
>
> (1) Use this patch (with alignment issue fixed of course).
> (2) Do a full kvmclock implementation. Feels a bit like overkill.
> (3) SeaBIOS can fallback to the PIT for timing on machines which
> have no TSC. We could do that too in case we detect kvm ...
What sort of timeouts are these? If seconds, maybe the rtc would be best.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-09 14:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-09 11:57 [PATCH] tsc: use kvmclock for calibration Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-09 12:53 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 13:25 ` [SeaBIOS] " Fred .
2012-08-09 13:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-09 14:01 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-08-09 14:05 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 14:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-09 14:17 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 14:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-09 14:20 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 19:02 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-12 10:56 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 19:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-10 7:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-10 7:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-10 8:10 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-10 21:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-13 10:37 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-13 10:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-13 12:55 ` [SeaBIOS] " Fred .
2012-08-12 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 18:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-08-12 9:01 ` Avi Kivity
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