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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mtosatti@redhat.com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] use jump labels to streamline common APIC configuration
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:38:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <502A7F1A.8080102@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <502A7AF6.7010609@redhat.com>

On 2012-08-14 18:21, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 08/14/2012 05:58 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And regarding how common they are: Do standard OSes trigger any
>>>> jump-label optimized switch during at least their boot-up? I thought so.
>>>> In that case, if you co-locate RT and standard OSes on a shared host,
>>>> you would have a conflict.
>>>>
>>> Yes, during boot up it happens. But it is rate limited to happen not
>>> more than once per second. But I genuinely curious does RT guest have
>>> any RT guaranties from QEMU/kvm combination today (with of without
>>> jump-labels)?
>>
>> Yes, when avoiding userspace exits. If you have a customized RTOS guest
>> or are lucky with some existing one, that works pretty well for periodic
>> processing in the 1 ms range.
> 
> I'd have expected better.

It can be but I would not yet count on it - therefore this conservative
number. Also, the number of VM exists per period is, of course, an
increasingly relevant factor when going down with the cycle time. So,
actually, you can only define the latency as function of various
workload parameters.

> 
> For more formal support, we need some ioctl() to pre-populate mappings,
> or perhaps extend mmu notifiers to report mlock un munlock operations
> and take them as a hint to premap.

Of course, we are doing mlockall(CURRENT|FUTURE) for RT. As unpopulated
mappings it didn't show up as latency source so far, I haven't looked at
this closer. Which mappings could still be unpopulated?

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-14 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-05 12:58 [PATCH 0/8] use jump labels to streamline common APIC configuration Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 1/8] KVM: clean up kvm_(set|get)_apic_base Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 2/8] KVM: use kvm_lapic_set_base() to change apic_base Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 3/8] KVM: mark apic enabled on start up Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:14   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:17     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:39       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:43         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 4/8] Export jump_label_rate_limit() Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:16   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 12:37     ` Jason Baron
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 5/8] KVM: use jump label to optimize checking for HW enabled APIC in APIC_BASE MSR Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:35   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:42     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:48       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:55         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 6/8] KVM: use jump label to optimize checking for SW enabled apic in spurious interrupt register Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 7/8] KVM: use jump label to optimize checking for in kernel local apic presence Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 12:58 ` [PATCH 8/8] KVM: inline kvm_apic_present() and kvm_lapic_enabled() Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 13:33 ` [PATCH 0/8] use jump labels to streamline common APIC configuration Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 13:35   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 13:42     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 13:48       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-05 14:00         ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-05 14:03           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:00             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:03               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:20                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:37                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:58                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 16:21                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 16:38                         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-08-14 17:00                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 17:16                             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:04               ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-14 14:05                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:08                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:07                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 14:13                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-14 14:44                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-14 15:09                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-05 19:30 ` Eric Northup
2012-08-06  8:35   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06  8:52   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-08-06 13:23 ` Avi Kivity

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