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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty.russell@linaro.org>,
	Christoffer Dall <c.dall@virtualopensystems.com>,
	"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] Making KVM_GET_ONE_REG/KVM_SET_ONE_REG generic.
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:16:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5048BE36.40105@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D500BA85-CC3A-4455-B934-581AC47BB112@suse.de>

On 09/06/2012 06:08 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> 
> On 06.09.2012, at 10:48, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 09/05/2012 09:48 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
>>> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
>>>> On 1 September 2012 13:28, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Rusty Russell (8):
>>>>>      KVM: ARM: Fix walk_msrs()
>>>>>      KVM: Move KVM_SET_ONE_REG/KVM_GET_ONE_REG to generic code.
>>>>>      KVM: Add KVM_REG_SIZE() helper.
>>>>>      KVM: ARM: use KVM_SET_ONE_REG/KVM_GET_ONE_REG.
>>>>>      KVM: Add KVM_VCPU_GET_REG_LIST.
>>>>>      KVM: ARM: Use KVM_VCPU_GET_REG_LIST.
>>>>>      KVM: ARM: Access all registers via KVM_GET_ONE_REG/KVM_SET_ONE_REG.
>>>>>      KVM ARM: Update api.txt
>>>> 
>>>> So I was thinking about this, and I remembered that the SET_ONE_REG/
>>>> GET_ONE_REG API has userspace pass a pointer to the variable the
>>>> kernel should read/write (unlike the _MSR x86 ioctls, where the
>>>> actual data value is sent back and forth in the struct). Further,
>>>> the kernel only writes a data value of the size of the register
>>>> (rather than always reading/writing a uint64_t).
>>>> 
>>>> This is a problem because it means userspace needs to know the
>>>> size of each register, and the kernel doesn't provide any way
>>>> to determine the size. This defeats the idea that userspace should
>>>> be able to migrate kernel register state without having to know
>>>> the semantics of all the registers involved.
>>> 
>>> It's there.  There are bits in the id which indicate the size:
>>> 
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_SHIFT    52
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_MASK    0x00f0000000000000ULL
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_U8        0x0000000000000000ULL
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_U16    0x0010000000000000ULL
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_U32    0x0020000000000000ULL
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_U64    0x0030000000000000ULL
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_U128    0x0040000000000000ULL
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_U256    0x0050000000000000ULL
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_U512    0x0060000000000000ULL
>>> #define KVM_REG_SIZE_U1024    0x0070000000000000ULL
>>> 
>> 
>> Assumes power-of-two registers.  On x86 IDTR is 10 bytes long (2 byte
>> limit, 8 byte address).  We could split it into two registers, or add
>> padding, but it's unnatural.

(and the APIC, if treated as one-large-register) is 4k)

> 
> Why is padding bad?

Where does it come? between the 2 byte and the 8 byte element?  After
the 10 bytes?

It means that users must either include the padding in their internal
data structures, or copy to a temporary.

> How do you model IDTR throughout the stack today? 

struct kvm_dtable {
	__u64 base;
	__u16 limit;
	__u16 padding[3];
};

:p

Internally, it's held in hardware registers.

> How does QEMU's savevm serialize it?

Two separate fields (actually four, of which two are ignored).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-06 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-28 23:37 [RFC 0/5] Making KVM_GET_ONE_REG/KVM_SET_ONE_REG generic Rusty Russell
2012-08-28 23:45 ` [RFC 1/5] KVM: Move KVM_SET_ONE_REG/KVM_GET_ONE_REG to generic code Rusty Russell
2012-09-01  9:11   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-01 10:18     ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-01 10:44       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28 23:46 ` [RFC 2/5] KVM: ARM: use KVM_SET_ONE_REG/KVM_GET_ONE_REG Rusty Russell
2012-08-29 15:10   ` Christoffer Dall
2012-08-28 23:47 ` [RFC 3/5] KVM: Add KVM_VCPU_GET_REG_LIST Rusty Russell
2012-08-29 15:13   ` Christoffer Dall
2012-08-28 23:47 ` [RFC 4/5] KVM: ARM: Use KVM_VCPU_GET_REG_LIST Rusty Russell
2012-08-29 15:14   ` Christoffer Dall
2012-08-28 23:48 ` [RFC 5/5] KVM: ARM: Access all registers via KVM_GET_ONE_REG/KVM_SET_ONE_REG Rusty Russell
2012-08-29 15:29   ` Christoffer Dall
2012-09-01  9:14     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 15:36   ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-29 18:21     ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-01  9:16       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-01 10:25         ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-01 19:40           ` Christoffer Dall
2012-09-04 13:09             ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-04 14:29               ` Christoffer Dall
2012-09-05  6:37                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-29 18:16   ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-29 16:30 ` [RFC 0/5] Making KVM_GET_ONE_REG/KVM_SET_ONE_REG generic Peter Maydell
2012-08-29 18:39   ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-01  9:21     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-01 12:35       ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-03  9:20         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03 12:33           ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-03 12:49             ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-04 11:48             ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-04 13:59               ` Alexander Graf
2012-09-06 14:44                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05  6:43               ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-01 12:28 ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-01 12:37   ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-04 13:31   ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-05  3:15     ` Alexander Graf
2012-09-05  6:48     ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-05  8:52       ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-06  1:44         ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-06  7:37           ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-06 14:48       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-06 15:08         ` Alexander Graf
2012-09-06 15:16           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-09-06 15:23             ` Peter Maydell
2012-09-06 15:35               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-06 23:00                 ` Rusty Russell

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