* win2k guest vm won't boot under Fedora 18 KVM @ 2013-03-09 19:43 Earl Marwil 2013-03-11 8:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Earl Marwil @ 2013-03-09 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: kvm Hi, I'm looking for some guidance on how to get to the root cause of an issue that I am observing with a win2k guest that won't boot under Fedora 18 on one system but will boot on another. A few days ago I posted on the fedora forum: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=289401 I can repeat the details in this thread if requested. The issue is that, with a fresh build of Fedora 18, updated to the most recent kernel and packages on an external USB ssd, my win2k VM boots on my laptop (Core i73720QM processor) but does not boot on my desktop system (Core i7-870 processor). I'm not sure whether this is a kvm issue or a kernel issue. I'll be glad to dig deeper, just let me what information is needed. Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: win2k guest vm won't boot under Fedora 18 KVM 2013-03-09 19:43 win2k guest vm won't boot under Fedora 18 KVM Earl Marwil @ 2013-03-11 8:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi 2013-03-11 8:27 ` Gleb Natapov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Stefan Hajnoczi @ 2013-03-11 8:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Earl Marwil; +Cc: kvm On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 12:43:32PM -0700, Earl Marwil wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for some guidance on how to get to the root cause of an > issue that I am observing with a win2k guest that won't boot under > Fedora 18 on one system but will boot on another. A few days ago I > posted on the fedora forum: > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=289401 > > I can repeat the details in this thread if requested. The issue is that, > with a fresh build of Fedora 18, updated to the most recent kernel and > packages on an external USB ssd, my win2k VM boots on my laptop (Core > i73720QM processor) but does not boot on my desktop system (Core i7-870 > processor). > > I'm not sure whether this is a kvm issue or a kernel issue. I'll be glad > to dig deeper, just let me what information is needed. Hi Earl, >From your forum post: KVM internal error. Suberror: 1 emulation failure EAX=63700200 EBX=0000e6f5 ECX=0000000f EDX=00000936 ... Code=74 1d b0 37 e6 70 eb 00 e4 71 eb 00 32 e4 c1 c0 04 c0 c8 04 <d5> 0a 3d 13 0 0 75 04 b8 7a 15 c3 b8 00 00 c3 55 8b ec 1e 06 56 57 8b 46 04 8e d8 8b 76 06 Here is my guess: Laptop has a CPU from 2012. Desktop has a CPU from 2009. Intel added "unrestricted guest" support to VMX. This feature allows the CPU to run real mode code in guest mode. CPUs that do not support "unrestricted guest" (your desktop?) use an emulator implemented in software inside the kvm.ko kernel module. The emulator may be unable to handle the real mode instruction in the particular kernel version you are running. The laptop doesn't hit this issue because it supports "unrestricted guest" while the desktop falls back to the emulator inside kvm.ko where it hits the bug. You may find that changing kernel versions on the desktop will make it work. The best would be to compile a vanilla Linux kernel for the desktop machine to verify that this issue still happens. If so, please post the full "KVM internal error" output to this mailing list and hopefully someone can fix the emulator. Problem with my theory: I haven't figured out how to check which Intel CPU models support "unrestricted guest", so I'm not 100% sure this is the issue. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: win2k guest vm won't boot under Fedora 18 KVM 2013-03-11 8:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi @ 2013-03-11 8:27 ` Gleb Natapov 2013-03-12 19:09 ` Earl Marwil 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Gleb Natapov @ 2013-03-11 8:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Hajnoczi; +Cc: Earl Marwil, kvm On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 09:09:13AM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 12:43:32PM -0700, Earl Marwil wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking for some guidance on how to get to the root cause of an > > issue that I am observing with a win2k guest that won't boot under > > Fedora 18 on one system but will boot on another. A few days ago I > > posted on the fedora forum: > > > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=289401 > > > > I can repeat the details in this thread if requested. The issue is that, > > with a fresh build of Fedora 18, updated to the most recent kernel and > > packages on an external USB ssd, my win2k VM boots on my laptop (Core > > i73720QM processor) but does not boot on my desktop system (Core i7-870 > > processor). > > > > I'm not sure whether this is a kvm issue or a kernel issue. I'll be glad > > to dig deeper, just let me what information is needed. > > Hi Earl, > >From your forum post: > > KVM internal error. Suberror: 1 > emulation failure > EAX=63700200 EBX=0000e6f5 ECX=0000000f EDX=00000936 > ... > Code=74 1d b0 37 e6 70 eb 00 e4 71 eb 00 32 e4 c1 c0 04 c0 c8 04 <d5> 0a 3d 13 0 > 0 75 04 b8 7a 15 c3 b8 00 00 c3 55 8b ec 1e 06 56 57 8b 46 04 8e d8 8b 76 06 > > Here is my guess: > > Laptop has a CPU from 2012. Desktop has a CPU from 2009. > > Intel added "unrestricted guest" support to VMX. This feature allows > the CPU to run real mode code in guest mode. > > CPUs that do not support "unrestricted guest" (your desktop?) use an > emulator implemented in software inside the kvm.ko kernel module. > > The emulator may be unable to handle the real mode instruction in the > particular kernel version you are running. > > The laptop doesn't hit this issue because it supports "unrestricted > guest" while the desktop falls back to the emulator inside kvm.ko where > it hits the bug. > > You may find that changing kernel versions on the desktop will make it > work. > > The best would be to compile a vanilla Linux kernel for the desktop > machine to verify that this issue still happens. If so, please post the > full "KVM internal error" output to this mailing list and hopefully > someone can fix the emulator. > > Problem with my theory: I haven't figured out how to check which Intel > CPU models support "unrestricted guest", so I'm not 100% sure this is > the issue. > Your theory is correct. This is the same as [1] which is fixed in 3.9. Depending on your kernel emulate_invalid_guest_state = 0 may help, or may make things even worse :( [1] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50921 -- Gleb. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: win2k guest vm won't boot under Fedora 18 KVM 2013-03-11 8:27 ` Gleb Natapov @ 2013-03-12 19:09 ` Earl Marwil 2013-03-12 19:16 ` Gleb Natapov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Earl Marwil @ 2013-03-12 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gleb Natapov; +Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi, kvm On 03/11/2013 02:27 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 09:09:13AM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 12:43:32PM -0700, Earl Marwil wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm looking for some guidance on how to get to the root cause of an >>> issue that I am observing with a win2k guest that won't boot under >>> Fedora 18 on one system but will boot on another. A few days ago I >>> posted on the fedora forum: >>> >>> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=289401 >>> >>> I can repeat the details in this thread if requested. The issue is that, >>> with a fresh build of Fedora 18, updated to the most recent kernel and >>> packages on an external USB ssd, my win2k VM boots on my laptop (Core >>> i73720QM processor) but does not boot on my desktop system (Core i7-870 >>> processor). >>> >>> I'm not sure whether this is a kvm issue or a kernel issue. I'll be glad >>> to dig deeper, just let me what information is needed. >> Hi Earl, >> >From your forum post: >> >> KVM internal error. Suberror: 1 >> emulation failure >> EAX=63700200 EBX=0000e6f5 ECX=0000000f EDX=00000936 >> ... >> Code=74 1d b0 37 e6 70 eb 00 e4 71 eb 00 32 e4 c1 c0 04 c0 c8 04 <d5> 0a 3d 13 0 >> 0 75 04 b8 7a 15 c3 b8 00 00 c3 55 8b ec 1e 06 56 57 8b 46 04 8e d8 8b 76 06 >> >> Here is my guess: >> >> Laptop has a CPU from 2012. Desktop has a CPU from 2009. >> >> Intel added "unrestricted guest" support to VMX. This feature allows >> the CPU to run real mode code in guest mode. >> >> CPUs that do not support "unrestricted guest" (your desktop?) use an >> emulator implemented in software inside the kvm.ko kernel module. >> >> The emulator may be unable to handle the real mode instruction in the >> particular kernel version you are running. >> >> The laptop doesn't hit this issue because it supports "unrestricted >> guest" while the desktop falls back to the emulator inside kvm.ko where >> it hits the bug. >> >> You may find that changing kernel versions on the desktop will make it >> work. >> >> The best would be to compile a vanilla Linux kernel for the desktop >> machine to verify that this issue still happens. If so, please post the >> full "KVM internal error" output to this mailing list and hopefully >> someone can fix the emulator. >> >> Problem with my theory: I haven't figured out how to check which Intel >> CPU models support "unrestricted guest", so I'm not 100% sure this is >> the issue. >> > Your theory is correct. This is the same as [1] which is fixed in 3.9. > Depending on your kernel emulate_invalid_guest_state = 0 may help, or > may make things even worse :( > > [1] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50921 > > -- > Gleb. > Thank you Stephan and Gleb. You are both right. I tried setting the kvm_intel module parameter as Gleb suggested. Running under kernel 3.7.9-205.fc18.x86_64, my VM failed to start with the log message: KVM: entry failed, hardware error 0x80000021 If you're running a guest on an Intel machine without unrestricted mode support, the failure can be most likely due to the guest entering an invalid state for Intel VT. For example, the guest maybe running in big real mode which is not supported on less recent Intel processors. EAX=00000011 EBX=18ae1000 ECX=00006a32 EDX=000fffa9 ESI=3ffeb0a1 EDI=00000000 EBP=000069f2 ESP=000069f2 EIP=0000c4cd EFL=00010006 [-----P-] CPL=0 II=0 A20=1 SMM=0 HLT=0 ES =fd39 000fd390 ffffffff 00809300 DPL=0 DS16 [-WA] CS =f000 000f0000 0000ffff 00009b00 DPL=0 CS16 [-RA] SS =0000 00000000 0000ffff 00009300 DPL=0 DS16 [-WA] DS =0030 00000000 ffffffff 00809300 DPL=0 DS16 [-WA] FS =0030 00000000 ffffffff 00809300 DPL=0 DS16 [-WA] GS =ca00 000ca000 ffffffff 00809300 DPL=0 DS16 [-WA] LDT=0000 00000000 0000ffff 00008200 DPL=0 LDT TR =0000 00000000 0000ffff 00008b00 DPL=0 TSS32-busy GDT= 000fd3a8 00000037 IDT= 000fd3e6 00000000 CR0=00000011 CR2=00000000 CR3=00000000 CR4=00000000 DR0=0000000000000000 DR1=0000000000000000 DR2=0000000000000000 DR3=0000000000000000 DR6=00000000ffff0ff0 DR7=0000000000000400 EFER=0000000000000000 Code=01 1e e0 d3 2e 0f 01 16 a0 d3 0f 20 c0 66 83 c8 01 0f 22 c0 <66> ea d5 c4 0f 00 08 00 b8 10 00 00 00 8e d8 8e c0 8e d0 8e e0 8e e8 89 c8 ff e2 89 c1 b8 qemu: terminating on signal 15 from pid 1589 However, under both kernel versions 3.8.1-201.fc18.x86_64 and 3.8.2-206.fc18.x86_64 I could successfully start my win2k VM. I simply reloaded the kvm_intel module: # rmmod kvm_intel # modprobe kvm_intel emulate_invalid_guest_state=0 I checked that the parameter was set, # cat /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/emulate_invalid_guest_state N and then started the VM. Everything seemed to work fine. The kernels above are the stock kernels via the Fedora distribution. If I can do anything to assist with some testing in the future, please let me know. Thanks again for your help! --Earl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: win2k guest vm won't boot under Fedora 18 KVM 2013-03-12 19:09 ` Earl Marwil @ 2013-03-12 19:16 ` Gleb Natapov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Gleb Natapov @ 2013-03-12 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Earl Marwil; +Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi, kvm On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 01:09:44PM -0600, Earl Marwil wrote: > > On 03/11/2013 02:27 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 09:09:13AM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 12:43:32PM -0700, Earl Marwil wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I'm looking for some guidance on how to get to the root cause of an > >>> issue that I am observing with a win2k guest that won't boot under > >>> Fedora 18 on one system but will boot on another. A few days ago I > >>> posted on the fedora forum: > >>> > >>> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=289401 > >>> > >>> I can repeat the details in this thread if requested. The issue is that, > >>> with a fresh build of Fedora 18, updated to the most recent kernel and > >>> packages on an external USB ssd, my win2k VM boots on my laptop (Core > >>> i73720QM processor) but does not boot on my desktop system (Core i7-870 > >>> processor). > >>> > >>> I'm not sure whether this is a kvm issue or a kernel issue. I'll be glad > >>> to dig deeper, just let me what information is needed. > >> Hi Earl, > >> >From your forum post: > >> > >> KVM internal error. Suberror: 1 > >> emulation failure > >> EAX=63700200 EBX=0000e6f5 ECX=0000000f EDX=00000936 > >> ... > >> Code=74 1d b0 37 e6 70 eb 00 e4 71 eb 00 32 e4 c1 c0 04 c0 c8 04 <d5> 0a 3d 13 0 > >> 0 75 04 b8 7a 15 c3 b8 00 00 c3 55 8b ec 1e 06 56 57 8b 46 04 8e d8 8b 76 06 > >> > >> Here is my guess: > >> > >> Laptop has a CPU from 2012. Desktop has a CPU from 2009. > >> > >> Intel added "unrestricted guest" support to VMX. This feature allows > >> the CPU to run real mode code in guest mode. > >> > >> CPUs that do not support "unrestricted guest" (your desktop?) use an > >> emulator implemented in software inside the kvm.ko kernel module. > >> > >> The emulator may be unable to handle the real mode instruction in the > >> particular kernel version you are running. > >> > >> The laptop doesn't hit this issue because it supports "unrestricted > >> guest" while the desktop falls back to the emulator inside kvm.ko where > >> it hits the bug. > >> > >> You may find that changing kernel versions on the desktop will make it > >> work. > >> > >> The best would be to compile a vanilla Linux kernel for the desktop > >> machine to verify that this issue still happens. If so, please post the > >> full "KVM internal error" output to this mailing list and hopefully > >> someone can fix the emulator. > >> > >> Problem with my theory: I haven't figured out how to check which Intel > >> CPU models support "unrestricted guest", so I'm not 100% sure this is > >> the issue. > >> > > Your theory is correct. This is the same as [1] which is fixed in 3.9. > > Depending on your kernel emulate_invalid_guest_state = 0 may help, or > > may make things even worse :( > > > > [1] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50921 > > > > -- > > Gleb. > > > Thank you Stephan and Gleb. You are both right. I tried setting the > kvm_intel module parameter as Gleb suggested. Running under kernel > 3.7.9-205.fc18.x86_64, my VM failed to start with the log message: > Yes, emulate_invalid_guest_state = 0 was broke in 3.7. 3.9, when released, should work without it. -- Gleb. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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