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From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: gleb@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:11:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514BBDC5.6090104@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130321222151.GA19821@amt.cnet>

On 03/22/2013 06:21 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 04:30:20PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>> Changlog:
>> V2:
>>   - do not reset n_requested_mmu_pages and n_max_mmu_pages
>>   - batch free root shadow pages to reduce vcpu notification and mmu-lock
>>     contention
>>   - remove the first patch that introduce kvm->arch.mmu_cache since we only
>>     'memset zero' on hashtable rather than all mmu cache members in this
>>     version
>>   - remove unnecessary kvm_reload_remote_mmus after kvm_mmu_zap_all
>>
>> * Issue
>> The current kvm_mmu_zap_all is really slow - it is holding mmu-lock to
>> walk and zap all shadow pages one by one, also it need to zap all guest
>> page's rmap and all shadow page's parent spte list. Particularly, things
>> become worse if guest uses more memory or vcpus. It is not good for
>> scalability.
> 
> Xiao, 
> 
> The bulk removal of shadow pages from mmu cache is nerving - it creates
> two codepaths to delete a data structure: the usual, single entry one
> and the bulk one.
> 
> There are two main usecases for kvm_mmu_zap_all(): to invalidate the
> current mmu tree (from kvm_set_memory) and to tear down all pages
> (VM shutdown).
> 
> The first usecase can use your idea of an invalid generation number
> on shadow pages. That is, increment the VM generation number, nuke the root
> pages and thats it. 
> 
> The modifications should be contained to kvm_mmu_get_page() mostly,
> correct? (would also have to keep counters to increase SLAB freeing 
> ratio, relative to number of outdated shadow pages).

Yes.

> 
> And then have codepaths that nuke shadow pages break from the spinlock,

I think this is not needed any more. We can let mmu_notify use the generation
number to invalid all shadow pages, then we only need to free them after
all vcpus down and mmu_notify unregistered - at this point, no lock contention,
we can directly free them.

> such as kvm_mmu_slot_remove_write_access does now (spin_needbreak).

BTW, to my honest, i do not think spin_needbreak is a good way - it does
not fix the hot-lock contention and it just occupies more cpu time to avoid
possible soft lock-ups.

Especially, zap-all-shadow-pages can let other vcpus fault and vcpus contest
mmu-lock, then zap-all-shadow-pages release mmu-lock and wait, other vcpus
create page tables again. zap-all-shadow-page need long time to be finished,
the worst case is, it can not completed forever on intensive vcpu and memory
usage.

I still think the right way to fix this kind of thing is optimization for
mmu-lock.

> That would also solve the current issues without using more memory 
> for pte_list_desc and without the delicate "Reset MMU cache" step.
> 
> What you think?

I agree your point, Marcelo! I will redesign it. Thank you!

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-22  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-20  8:30 [PATCH v2 0/7] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] KVM: MMU: introduce mmu_cache->pte_list_descs Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] KVM: x86: introduce memslot_set_lpage_disallowed Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] KVM: x86: introduce kvm_clear_all_gfn_page_info Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] KVM: MMU: delete shadow page from hash list in kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_page Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-21 13:14   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-22  2:16     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] KVM: MMU: split kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_page Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] KVM: MMU: drop unnecessary kvm_reload_remote_mmus after kvm_mmu_zap_all Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-21 22:21 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-22  2:11   ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2013-03-22 10:01     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 10:54     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-22 11:10       ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 11:28         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-22 11:39           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 11:47             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-22 12:03               ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 12:12                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-22 12:37                   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 19:15                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 20:39                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-18  9:42                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-18 14:01                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-18 16:36                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-18 17:34                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
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2013-03-20  8:29 Xiao Guangrong

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