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From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: gleb@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:10:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514C3C34.4080906@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130322105436.GC7543@amt.cnet>

On 03/22/2013 06:54 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:

>>
>>>
>>> And then have codepaths that nuke shadow pages break from the spinlock,
>>
>> I think this is not needed any more. We can let mmu_notify use the generation
>> number to invalid all shadow pages, then we only need to free them after
>> all vcpus down and mmu_notify unregistered - at this point, no lock contention,
>> we can directly free them.
>>
>>> such as kvm_mmu_slot_remove_write_access does now (spin_needbreak).
>>
>> BTW, to my honest, i do not think spin_needbreak is a good way - it does
>> not fix the hot-lock contention and it just occupies more cpu time to avoid
>> possible soft lock-ups.
>>
>> Especially, zap-all-shadow-pages can let other vcpus fault and vcpus contest
>> mmu-lock, then zap-all-shadow-pages release mmu-lock and wait, other vcpus
>> create page tables again. zap-all-shadow-page need long time to be finished,
>> the worst case is, it can not completed forever on intensive vcpu and memory
>> usage.
> 
> Yes, but the suggestion is to use spin_needbreak on the VM shutdown
> cases, where there is no detailed concern about performance. Such as
> mmu_notifier_release, kvm_destroy_vm, etc. In those cases what matters
> most is that host remains unaffected (and that it finishes in a
> reasonable time).

Okay. I agree with you, will give a try.

> 
>> I still think the right way to fix this kind of thing is optimization for
>> mmu-lock.
> 
> And then for the cases where performance matters just increase a
> VM global generetion number, zap the roots and then on kvm_mmu_get_page:
> 
> kvm_mmu_get_page() {
> 	sp = lookup_hash(gfn)
> 	if (sp->role = role) {
> 		if (sp->mmu_gen_number != kvm->arch.mmu_gen_number) {
> 			kvm_mmu_commit_zap_page(sp); (no need for TLB flushes as its unreachable)
> 			kvm_mmu_init_page(sp);
> 			proceed as if the page was just allocated
> 		}
> 	}
> }
> 
> It makes the kvm_mmu_zap_all path even faster than you have now.
> I suppose this was your idea correct with the generation number correct?

Wow, great minds think alike, this is exactly what i am doing. ;)



  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-22 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-20  8:30 [PATCH v2 0/7] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] KVM: MMU: introduce mmu_cache->pte_list_descs Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] KVM: x86: introduce memslot_set_lpage_disallowed Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] KVM: x86: introduce kvm_clear_all_gfn_page_info Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] KVM: MMU: delete shadow page from hash list in kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_page Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-21 13:14   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-22  2:16     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] KVM: MMU: split kvm_mmu_prepare_zap_page Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-20  8:30 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] KVM: MMU: drop unnecessary kvm_reload_remote_mmus after kvm_mmu_zap_all Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-21 22:21 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] KVM: MMU: fast zap all shadow pages Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-22  2:11   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 10:01     ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 10:54     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-03-22 11:10       ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2013-03-22 11:28         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-22 11:39           ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 11:47             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-22 12:03               ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 12:12                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-03-22 12:37                   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-03-22 19:15                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-17 20:39                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-18  9:42                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-18 14:01                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-04-18 16:36                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-04-18 17:34                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
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2013-03-20  8:29 Xiao Guangrong

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