* [PATCH 1/1] virtio: rng: add derating factor for use by hwrng core
@ 2014-08-11 18:49 Amit Shah
2014-08-11 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Amit Shah @ 2014-08-11 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Cc: jgarzik, tytso, herbert, kvm list, ricardo.neri-calderon,
Virtualization List, duwe, Amit Shah, hpa
The khwrngd thread is started when a hwrng device of sufficient
quality is registered. The virtio-rng device is backed by the
hypervisor, and we trust the hypervisor to provide real entropy. A
malicious hypervisor is a scenario that's ruled out, so we are certain
the quality of randomness we receive is perfectly trustworthy. Hence,
we use 100% for the factor, indicating maximum confidence in the source.
Signed-off-by: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
---
Pretty small and contained patch; would be great if it is picked up for
3.17.
---
drivers/char/hw_random/virtio-rng.c | 1 +
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
diff --git a/drivers/char/hw_random/virtio-rng.c b/drivers/char/hw_random/virtio-rng.c
index 0027137..2e3139e 100644
--- a/drivers/char/hw_random/virtio-rng.c
+++ b/drivers/char/hw_random/virtio-rng.c
@@ -116,6 +116,7 @@ static int probe_common(struct virtio_device *vdev)
.cleanup = virtio_cleanup,
.priv = (unsigned long)vi,
.name = vi->name,
+ .quality = 1000,
};
vdev->priv = vi;
--
1.9.3
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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] virtio: rng: add derating factor for use by hwrng core
2014-08-11 18:49 [PATCH 1/1] virtio: rng: add derating factor for use by hwrng core Amit Shah
@ 2014-08-11 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-08-12 5:27 ` Amit Shah
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: H. Peter Anvin @ 2014-08-11 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Amit Shah, linux-kernel
Cc: Rusty Russell, Virtualization List, kvm list, jgarzik, duwe,
Amos Kong, ricardo.neri-calderon, tytso, herbert
On 08/11/2014 11:49 AM, Amit Shah wrote:
> The khwrngd thread is started when a hwrng device of sufficient
> quality is registered. The virtio-rng device is backed by the
> hypervisor, and we trust the hypervisor to provide real entropy. A
> malicious hypervisor is a scenario that's ruled out, so we are certain
> the quality of randomness we receive is perfectly trustworthy. Hence,
> we use 100% for the factor, indicating maximum confidence in the source.
>
> Signed-off-by: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
It isn't "ruled out", it is just irrelevant: if the hypervisor is
malicious, the quality of your random number source is the least of your
problems.
-hpa
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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] virtio: rng: add derating factor for use by hwrng core
2014-08-11 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
@ 2014-08-12 5:27 ` Amit Shah
2014-08-12 14:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Amit Shah @ 2014-08-12 5:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: H. Peter Anvin
Cc: jgarzik, tytso, herbert, kvm list, ricardo.neri-calderon,
linux-kernel, Virtualization List, duwe
On (Mon) 11 Aug 2014 [15:11:03], H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 08/11/2014 11:49 AM, Amit Shah wrote:
> > The khwrngd thread is started when a hwrng device of sufficient
> > quality is registered. The virtio-rng device is backed by the
> > hypervisor, and we trust the hypervisor to provide real entropy. A
> > malicious hypervisor is a scenario that's ruled out, so we are certain
> > the quality of randomness we receive is perfectly trustworthy. Hence,
> > we use 100% for the factor, indicating maximum confidence in the source.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
>
> It isn't "ruled out", it is just irrelevant: if the hypervisor is
> malicious, the quality of your random number source is the least of your
> problems.
Yea; I meant ruled out in that sense. Should the commit msg be more
verbose?
Amit
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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] virtio: rng: add derating factor for use by hwrng core
2014-08-12 5:27 ` Amit Shah
@ 2014-08-12 14:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: H. Peter Anvin @ 2014-08-12 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Amit Shah
Cc: jgarzik, tytso, herbert, kvm list, ricardo.neri-calderon,
linux-kernel, Virtualization List, duwe
On 08/11/2014 10:27 PM, Amit Shah wrote:
> On (Mon) 11 Aug 2014 [15:11:03], H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 08/11/2014 11:49 AM, Amit Shah wrote:
>>> The khwrngd thread is started when a hwrng device of sufficient
>>> quality is registered. The virtio-rng device is backed by the
>>> hypervisor, and we trust the hypervisor to provide real entropy. A
>>> malicious hypervisor is a scenario that's ruled out, so we are certain
>>> the quality of randomness we receive is perfectly trustworthy. Hence,
>>> we use 100% for the factor, indicating maximum confidence in the source.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
>>
>> It isn't "ruled out", it is just irrelevant: if the hypervisor is
>> malicious, the quality of your random number source is the least of your
>> problems.
>
> Yea; I meant ruled out in that sense. Should the commit msg be more
> verbose?
>
Yes, as it is written it is misleading.
-hpa
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