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From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	"christoffer.dall@linaro.org" <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	"lersek@redhat.com" <lersek@redhat.com>,
	"drjones@redhat.com" <drjones@redhat.com>,
	"wei@redhat.com" <wei@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] arm, arm64: KVM: handle potential incoherency of readonly memslots
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:39:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <546A16A9.6050504@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <546A146E.1020804@redhat.com>

Hi Paolo,

On 17/11/14 15:29, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 17/11/2014 15:58, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> Readonly memslots are often used to implement emulation of ROMs and
>> NOR flashes, in which case the guest may legally map these regions as
>> uncached.
>> To deal with the incoherency associated with uncached guest mappings,
>> treat all readonly memslots as incoherent, and ensure that pages that
>> belong to regions tagged as such are flushed to DRAM before being passed
>> to the guest.
> 
> On x86, the processor combines the cacheability values from the two
> levels of page tables.  Is there no way to do the same on ARM?

ARM is broadly similar, but there's a number of gotchas:
- uncacheable (guest level) + cacheable (host level) -> uncacheable: the
read request is going to be directly sent to RAM, bypassing the caches.
- Userspace is going to use a cacheable view of the "NOR" pages, which
is going to stick around in the cache (this is just memory, after all).

The net result is that we need to detect those cases and make sure the
guest sees the latest bit of data written by userland.

We already have a similar mechanism when we fault pages in, but the
guest has not enabled its caches yet.

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...


  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-17 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-17 14:58 [PATCH 1/3] kvm: add a memslot flag for incoherent memory regions Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-17 14:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] arm, arm64: KVM: allow forced dcache flush on page faults Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-17 14:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm, arm64: KVM: handle potential incoherency of readonly memslots Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-17 15:29   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-17 15:39     ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2014-11-17 16:03       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-17 15:49     ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-19 23:32       ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-20  8:08         ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-20 18:35           ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-20 18:40             ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-20 19:15               ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-20 19:49               ` Jon Masters
2014-11-20 20:10                 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-20 21:13                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-20 21:59                     ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-21 11:19         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-22  1:50           ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-22 10:18             ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-22 10:26               ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-22 12:27             ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19  8:51   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-19 11:02     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 11:03     ` Paolo Bonzini

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