* can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
@ 2014-11-18 6:48 Eric S. Johansson
2014-11-18 13:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
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From: Eric S. Johansson @ 2014-11-18 6:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kvm
this is a rather different use case than what you've been thinking of
for KVM. It could mean significant improvement of the quality of life of
disabled programs like myself. It's difficult to convey what it's like
to try to use computers with speech recognition for something other than
writing so, bear with me when I say something is real but don't quite
prove it yet. also, please take it as read that the only really usable
speech recognition environment out there is NaturallySpeaking with
Google close behind in terms of accuracy but not even in the same planet
for ability to extend for speech enabled applications.
I'm trying to figure out ways of making it possible to drive Linux from
Windows speech recognition (NaturallySpeaking). The goal is a system
where Windows runs in a virtual machine (Linux host), audio is passed
through from a USB headset to the Windows environment. And the output of
the recognition engine is piped through some magic back to the Linux host.
the hardest part of all of this without question is getting clean
uninterrupted audio from the USB device all the way through to the
Windows virtual machine. virtual box, VMware fail mostly in delivering
reliable audio to the virtual machine.
I expect KVM to not work right with regards to getting clean
audio/real-time USB but I'm asking in case I'm wrong. if it doesn't work
or can't work yet, what would it take to make it possible for clean
audio to be passed through to a guest?
--- Why this is important, approaches that failed, why think this will
work. Boring accessibility info ---
The history of trying to make Windows or DOS based speech recognition
drive Linux has a long and tortured history. almost all of them involve
some form of an open loop system that ignores system context and counts
on the grammar to specify the context and the subsequent keystrokes
injected into the target system.
This model fails because it effectively speaking keyboard functions
which wastes the majority of the power of a good grammar in a speech
recognition environment.
Most common configuration for speech recognition in a virtualized
environment today is that Windows is the host with speech recognition
and Linux is the guest. It's just a reimplementation of the open-loop
system described above where your dictation results are keystrokes
injected into the virtual machine console window. Sometimes works,
sometimes drops characters.
One big failing of the Windows host/Linux guest environments is in
addition to dropping characters,it seems to drop segments of the audio
stream on the Windows side. It's common but not frequent for this to
happen anyway when running Windows with any sort of CPU utilization but
it's almost guaranteed as soon as a virtual machine starts up.
Another failing is that the context the recognition application is aware
of is the window of the console. It knows nothing about the internal
context of the virtual machine (what application has focus). And
unfortunately it can't know anything more because of the way that
NaturallySpeaking uses the local Windows context.
Inverting the relationship between guest and host where Linux is the
host and Windows is the guest solves at least the focus problem. In the
virtual machine, you have a portal application the canal control the
perception of context and tunnels the character stream from the
recognition engine into the host OS to drive it open loop. The portal
application[1] can also communicate which grammar sequence has been
parsed and what action should be taken on the host site. At this point,
we now have the capabilities of a closed-loop speech recognition
environment where a grammar can read context to generate a new grammar
to fit the applications state. This means smaller utterances which can
be disambiguated versus the more traditional large utterance
disambiguation technique.
A couple other advantages of Windows as a guest is that it only run
speech recognition in the portal. There's no browsers, no flash,
JavaScript, viruses and other "stuff" taking up resources and
distracting from speech recognition working as well as possible. The
downside is that the host running the virtual machine needs to make the
VM very high almost real-time priority[2] so that it doesn't stall and
speech recognition works as quickly and as accurately as possible.
Hope I didn't bore you too badly. Thank you for reading and I hope we
can make this work.
--- eric
[1] should I call it cake?
[2] I'm looking at you Firefox, sucking down 30% of the CPU doing nothing
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-18 6:48 can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project) Eric S. Johansson
@ 2014-11-18 13:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-18 13:53 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-18 14:51 ` Eric S. Johansson
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2014-11-18 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric S. Johansson, kvm, Gerd Hoffmann, Hans De Goede
On 18/11/2014 07:48, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out ways of making it possible to drive Linux from
> Windows speech recognition (NaturallySpeaking). The goal is a system
> where Windows runs in a virtual machine (Linux host), audio is passed
> through from a USB headset to the Windows environment. And the output of
> the recognition engine is piped through some magic back to the Linux host.
>
> the hardest part of all of this without question is getting clean
> uninterrupted audio from the USB device all the way through to the
> Windows virtual machine. virtual box, VMware fail mostly in delivering
> reliable audio to the virtual machine.
>
> I expect KVM to not work right with regards to getting clean
> audio/real-time USB but I'm asking in case I'm wrong. if it doesn't work
> or can't work yet, what would it take to make it possible for clean
> audio to be passed through to a guest?
I'm adding two people who might know.
Do you have any idea what the "magic to pipe data back to the Linux
host" should look like? Does a normal serial port (COM1 for Windows,
/dev/ttyS0 for Linux) work?
Paolo
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-18 13:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
@ 2014-11-18 13:53 ` Hans de Goede
2014-11-18 14:57 ` Eric S. Johansson
2014-11-18 14:51 ` Eric S. Johansson
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From: Hans de Goede @ 2014-11-18 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paolo Bonzini, Eric S. Johansson, kvm, Gerd Hoffmann
Hi,
On 11/18/2014 02:50 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
>
> On 18/11/2014 07:48, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>> I'm trying to figure out ways of making it possible to drive Linux from
>> Windows speech recognition (NaturallySpeaking). The goal is a system
>> where Windows runs in a virtual machine (Linux host), audio is passed
>> through from a USB headset to the Windows environment. And the output of
>> the recognition engine is piped through some magic back to the Linux host.
>>
>> the hardest part of all of this without question is getting clean
>> uninterrupted audio from the USB device all the way through to the
>> Windows virtual machine. virtual box, VMware fail mostly in delivering
>> reliable audio to the virtual machine.
>>
>> I expect KVM to not work right with regards to getting clean
>> audio/real-time USB but I'm asking in case I'm wrong. if it doesn't work
>> or can't work yet, what would it take to make it possible for clean
>> audio to be passed through to a guest?
>
> I'm adding two people who might know.
kvm's usb pass-through should be able to handle this without any issues
(other then some latency), it uses special buffering for isochronous
usb packets, which should take care of usb audio working.
I've never tested audio recording, but audio playback and video recording
(webcams) work, so I expect audio recording to be fine.
Regards,
Hans
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-18 13:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-18 13:53 ` Hans de Goede
@ 2014-11-18 14:51 ` Eric S. Johansson
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S. Johansson @ 2014-11-18 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paolo Bonzini, kvm, Gerd Hoffmann, Hans De Goede
On 11/18/2014 8:50 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
> I'm adding two people who might know.
>
> Do you have any idea what the "magic to pipe data back to the Linux
> host" should look like? Does a normal serial port (COM1 for Windows,
> /dev/ttyS0 for Linux) work?
>
The fine magic comes in three forms. Keystroke injection, context
feedback, and exporting UI elements such as microphone level,
recognition correction, partial recognition pop-ups into the linux
environment.
All of these have in common the magic trick of using the isolation of
the Windows environment to provide a single dictation target to
NaturallySpeaking. All of the information necessary for the above
capabilities would pass through this target. initially, this would be an
ssh session with command redirecting standard into whatever
accessibility inputs available.
The host side of this gateway would be responsible for all of the
proper input redirection. In theory, it would even be possible to direct
speech recognition towards two targets depending on the grammar. For
example in the programming by speech environment I'm working on, I would
dictate directly into the editor sometimes and into a secondary window
for focused speech UI action. At no time, would my hand touch the mouse.
:-) It will happen because of the context set by the speech UI as a
deliberate effect of certain commands.
--- longer ramble about speech and nuance issues. ---
Being a crip who's trying to write code with speech, it's not going to
be fast. once I get the Basic keystroke injection working, it will be
good enough to continuing developing my program by speech environment.
But to discuss that, would go down the rathole of current models of
speech user interfaces, why don't work, things you shouldn't do such as
speaking the keyboard, intentional automation, contextual grammars and a
host of other things of spent the past 15 years learning about and
figuring out how to make a change. By the way, that knowledge and
passion is why I I've started a consulting practice that focuses on
improving user experience/user interfaces starting from the intent of
the user and perspective of a disabled person with the result being an
improved UI for everybody.
The hardest part is going to be everything except a keystroke injection.
This is because they require special knowledge that nuance is loath to
give up. I don't get it. Nuance totes and gets federal benefits for
producing something that is "section 508 compliant" yet, the only way
you could be considered an accessibility tool is if you do nothing but
write in Microsoft Word. I worked for a dragon reseller for a while
with medical record systems and, nuance doesn't even make an attempt to
try and speech enable the medical record environment. They have people
using a couple of solutions that don't work well and effectively provide
no UI automation[1] tied into speech commands.
A bunch of us techno Crips have built environments that greatly enhance
the range of solutions NaturallySpeaking could be used for but, nuance
won't talk to us, won't give us any documentation to keep things running
on our own, won't sell us the documentation either and worst of all,
they have written terms into the AUP designed to bar extensions like our
environment unless you buy the most expensive version of
NaturallySpeaking available.
And did I mention that they have many bugs that are a significant
problem for every user, not to mention the scripts and the last time I
checked, it will cost about $10 to report a bug (support call cost) and
then there's no guarantee they'll ever fix. In version 13, I'm seeing
bugs that have been around since version 7 or 8.
I will do what I can to implement the magic and when I get stumped,
then, I'll figure out what I'm going to do technically and politically.
--- eric
[1] This is kind of a lie. They have the tools to what you navigate
blindly through an application (i.e. hit 15 tabs, two down arrows, and a
mouse click and it might end up in the right UI element to do something.
unfortunately, they do not have anything to make it predictable,
repeatable or survive revisions in the user interface. But this is one
of those rat holes I said it wouldn't go down.
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-18 13:53 ` Hans de Goede
@ 2014-11-18 14:57 ` Eric S. Johansson
2014-11-20 16:28 ` Eric S. Johansson
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From: Eric S. Johansson @ 2014-11-18 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans de Goede, Paolo Bonzini, kvm, Gerd Hoffmann
On 11/18/2014 8:53 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> kvm's usb pass-through should be able to handle this without any issues
> (other then some latency), it uses special buffering for isochronous
> usb packets, which should take care of usb audio working.
>
> I've never tested audio recording, but audio playback and video recording
> (webcams) work, so I expect audio recording to be fine.
>
That's great to know. I will spin up a version of Windows 7 and give it
a try given that I'm not looking at it, I can strip it down to the
barest user interface elements and improve performance significantly.
FYI, Windows 8 actually works better for hand crips like myself because
it's easier to fit the big blocky icons with hand tremors and has flaky
fine motion control them is to try and hit the tiny little icons and
menus. Yes, that's why I like unity as well. :-) I would love to have a
capability to make the title bar drop downs bigger temporarily so I
could more easily pick elements out of them but otherwise have been
visually out-of-the-way.
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-18 14:57 ` Eric S. Johansson
@ 2014-11-20 16:28 ` Eric S. Johansson
2014-11-20 21:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S. Johansson @ 2014-11-20 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans de Goede, Paolo Bonzini, kvm, Gerd Hoffmann
On 11/18/2014 9:57 AM, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>
> That's great to know. I will spin up a version of Windows 7 and give
> it a try given that I'm not looking at it, I can strip it down to the
> barest user interface elements and improve performance significantly.
I tried it and it took me approximately 10 to 12 hours to install
Windows 7 twice and I didn't even finish installing the last time.
Here's what happened. The first time I installed it, it was a naïve
install. Took all the defaults just set up the ISO and let the install
run. Then I installed all the updates. Hours went by and it kind of came
up and ran but then I tried to install the virt I/O drivers and the
Windows installation lost its mind. Did some reading on how to make
performance better and on using the virtio drivers in windows.
So I start of the second install, same size disk 25 GB, same amount of
RAM, 1 GB and installed the ethernet, disk and balloon drivers at the
right time. I also changed the cache to none, I/O something to native
and I think that's about it. Anyway, that was not really any
improvement. It's still was incredibly slow and this time it was
complaining about running out of memory and packages install never
finished. Just kept going and going going. iptraf reported network io
ranging from 3kbit to 100kbit range when the updates were running.
I'm accustomed to lesser performance on virtual machines. That's the
hazard of a running on old and slow laptop (dell e6400 (2.2ghz core
duo, 8gb ram)[1]) but even virtual box is not this slow. So what am I
doing wrong? It would be nice to use a slow machine like this as many
handcrips don't have a whole lot of resources for buying newer/faster
machines. On the other hand, many of them use desktops and work from one
place whereas someone like me is all over the map (quite literally).
--- eric
[1] Part of the reason I don't bother upgrading machines all that often
is because it no matter how fast the CPU runs or how much memory I have,
Windows always runs about the same speed.
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-20 16:28 ` Eric S. Johansson
@ 2014-11-20 21:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-20 22:22 ` Eric S. Johansson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2014-11-20 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric S. Johansson, Hans de Goede, kvm, Gerd Hoffmann
On 20/11/2014 17:28, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> I'm accustomed to lesser performance on virtual machines. That's the
> hazard of a running on old and slow laptop (dell e6400 (2.2ghz core
> duo, 8gb ram)[1]) but even virtual box is not this slow. So what am I
> doing wrong? It would be nice to use a slow machine like this as many
> handcrips don't have a whole lot of resources for buying newer/faster
> machines. On the other hand, many of them use desktops and work from one
> place whereas someone like me is all over the map (quite literally).
How did you start the virtual machine? Perhaps you're not using KVM but
emulation? I have a fast machine but slow disk (a NAS on 100 MBit
ethernet) and I can do about 15 automated installations in less than 6
hours.
Are you using libvirt or directly invoking QEMU?
Paolo
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-20 21:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
@ 2014-11-20 22:22 ` Eric S. Johansson
2014-11-21 14:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S. Johansson @ 2014-11-20 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paolo Bonzini, Hans de Goede, kvm, Gerd Hoffmann
On 11/20/2014 4:48 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
> On 20/11/2014 17:28, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>> I'm accustomed to lesser performance on virtual machines. That's the
>> hazard of a running on old and slow laptop (dell e6400 (2.2ghz core
>> duo, 8gb ram)[1]) but even virtual box is not this slow. So what am I
>> doing wrong? It would be nice to use a slow machine like this as many
>> handcrips don't have a whole lot of resources for buying newer/faster
>> machines. On the other hand, many of them use desktops and work from one
>> place whereas someone like me is all over the map (quite literally).
> How did you start the virtual machine? Perhaps you're not using KVM but
> emulation? I have a fast machine but slow disk (a NAS on 100 MBit
> ethernet) and I can do about 15 automated installations in less than 6
> hours.
>
> Are you using libvirt or directly invoking QEMU?
I was using one of the GUIs ( less hand stress than trying to assemble a
commandline). Unfortunately I'm in Windows 8 right now because I'm
writing. I'm very sure the GUI was http://virt-manager.org/ I tried a
different one but it kept telling me I only had QEMU I thought "silly
program, that can't be right". Someday I will not argue with software or
small electronic boxes. They don't care who wins and they are much more
stubborn than I am.
I'll be able to run some tests in about 2 to 3 hours after I finish this
document. Let me know what I should look at? on a side note, a pointer
to an automated install process would be wonderful.
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-20 22:22 ` Eric S. Johansson
@ 2014-11-21 14:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-21 16:52 ` Eric S. Johansson
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2014-11-21 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kvm
On 20/11/2014 23:22, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> I'll be able to run some tests in about 2 to 3 hours after I finish this
> document. Let me know what I should look at? on a side note, a pointer
> to an automated install process would be wonderful.
GNOME Boxes can pretty much automate the install process.
Can you just run "ps aux" while the install is running and send the result?
Paolo
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-21 14:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
@ 2014-11-21 16:52 ` Eric S. Johansson
2014-11-21 18:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-21 18:24 ` next puzzle: " Eric S. Johansson
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S. Johansson @ 2014-11-21 16:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paolo Bonzini, kvm
On 11/21/2014 09:06 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
> On 20/11/2014 23:22, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>> I'll be able to run some tests in about 2 to 3 hours after I finish this
>> document. Let me know what I should look at? on a side note, a pointer
>> to an automated install process would be wonderful.
> GNOME Boxes can pretty much automate the install process.
>
> Can you just run "ps aux" while the install is running and send the result?
I went back and verified I had installed all packages. apparently I
missed a few updates. also I was more familiar with the UI tool. I
noticed a few places where kvm was now an option. last I made a copy of
the dvd to an iso as an install image. end result is *wow* much
faster. I now have hope that my project will work. sure does like
giving 110% in cpu speed.
4384 libvirt+ 20 0 2825112 2.058g 9960 R 109.1 26.6 12:47.73
qemu-system-x86
next report after updates install
btw, would you like a better UI design for a management tool? I have
some ideas but would need someone with hands to put it together.
--- eric
top sez
Tasks: 182 total, 4 running, 178 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 44.2 us, 14.9 sy, 0.0 ni, 38.7 id, 2.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.2 si,
0.0 st
KiB Mem: 8128204 total, 4750320 used, 3377884 free, 54476 buffers
KiB Swap: 8338428 total, 0 used, 8338428 free. 1996164 cached Mem
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+
COMMAND
4384 libvirt+ 20 0 2634992 2.033g 9940 R 108.6 26.2 2:02.83
qemu-syste+
2668 eric 20 0 1284184 66308 29828 S 2.3 0.8 0:21.50 compiz
1314 root 20 0 1032288 22264 11436 S 2.0 0.3 0:46.29
libvirtd
18 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 1.7 0.0 0:00.96
kworker/1:0
1423 root 20 0 410736 49196 35228 S 1.7 0.6 0:32.18 Xorg
4694 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 1.7 0.0 0:00.20
kworker/0:1
2837 eric 20 0 1481612 102828 38476 S 1.0 1.3 0:54.03 python
2628 eric 20 0 20232 940 768 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.69
syndaemon
3047 eric 20 0 653160 20868 12472 S 0.3 0.3 0:02.14
gnome-term+
3147 eric 20 0 377868 4168 3288 S 0.3 0.1 0:00.04
deja-dup-m+
1 root 20 0 33908 3280 1472 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.62 init
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
kthreadd
3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.16
ksoftirqd/0
4 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.72
kworker/0:0
5 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
kworker/0:+
7 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.50
rcu_sched
8 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 0.0 0.0 0:00.40
rcuos/0
eric@garnet:~$
ps aux sez
eric@garnet:~$ ps -aux
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1 0.1 0.0 33908 3280 ? Ss 11:12 0:01 /sbin/init
root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [kthreadd]
root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[ksoftirqd/0]
root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[kworker/0:0]
root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[kworker/0:0H]
root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [rcu_sched]
root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [rcuos/0]
root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [rcuos/1]
root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [rcu_bh]
root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [rcuob/0]
root 12 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [rcuob/1]
root 13 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[migration/0]
root 14 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[watchdog/0]
root 15 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[watchdog/1]
root 16 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[migration/1]
root 17 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[ksoftirqd/1]
root 18 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:01
[kworker/1:0]
root 19 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[kworker/1:0H]
root 20 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [khelper]
root 21 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [kdevtmpfs]
root 22 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [netns]
root 23 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [writeback]
root 24 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[kintegrityd]
root 25 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [bioset]
root 26 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[kworker/u5:0]
root 27 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [kblockd]
root 28 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [ata_sff]
root 29 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [khubd]
root 30 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [md]
root 31 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[devfreq_wq]
root 34 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[khungtaskd]
root 35 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [kswapd0]
root 36 0.1 0.0 0 0 ? SN 11:12 0:02 [ksmd]
root 37 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 11:12 0:00
[khugepaged]
root 38 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[fsnotify_mark]
root 39 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[ecryptfs-kthrea]
root 40 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [crypto]
root 52 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [kthrotld]
root 74 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [deferwq]
root 75 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[charger_manager]
root 123 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [kpsmoused]
root 124 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [firewire]
root 125 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[firewire_ohci]
root 126 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root 127 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
root 128 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [scsi_eh_2]
root 129 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [scsi_eh_3]
root 130 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [scsi_eh_4]
root 131 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [scsi_eh_5]
root 133 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[kworker/u4:4]
root 139 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [scsi_eh_6]
root 140 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[usb-storage]
root 150 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[jbd2/sda3-8]
root 151 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[ext4-rsv-conver]
root 317 0.0 0.0 19608 912 ? S 11:12 0:00
upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
root 343 0.0 0.0 51752 1972 ? Ss 11:12 0:01
/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --daemon
root 369 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
[jbd2/sdb3-8]
root 370 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[ext4-rsv-conver]
root 426 0.0 0.0 15276 628 ? S 11:12 0:00
upstart-file-bridge --daemon
root 471 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [cfg80211]
syslog 506 0.0 0.0 255844 1276 ? Ssl 11:12 0:00 rsyslogd
root 529 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [pccardd]
root 587 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[kvm-irqfd-clean]
root 594 0.1 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:01
[irq/46-iwlwifi]
root 603 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [kmpathd]
root 604 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
[kmpath_handlerd]
root 647 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [iwlwifi]
message+ 655 0.0 0.0 40196 2480 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
dbus-daemon --system --fork
root 679 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [hd-audio0]
root 774 0.0 0.0 15260 396 ? S 11:12 0:00
upstart-socket-bridge --daemon
root 776 0.0 0.0 19292 1712 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
/usr/sbin/bluetoothd
root 819 0.0 0.0 330236 4432 ? Ssl 11:12 0:00
/usr/sbin/ModemManager
root 831 0.0 0.0 43560 1924 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
/lib/systemd/systemd-logind
root 851 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [krfcommd]
avahi 872 0.0 0.0 32356 1668 ? S 11:12 0:00
avahi-daemon: running [garnet.local]
avahi 874 0.0 0.0 32224 464 ? S 11:12 0:00
avahi-daemon: chroot helper
root 937 0.0 0.1 345036 8612 ? Ssl 11:12 0:00
NetworkManager
root 943 0.0 0.0 281472 5420 ? Sl 11:12 0:00
/usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
root 1065 0.0 0.0 20016 968 tty4 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4
root 1069 0.0 0.0 20016 968 tty5 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty5
root 1071 0.0 0.0 30608 2652 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -P /run/sendsigs.omit.d/w
root 1079 0.0 0.0 20016 968 tty2 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty2
root 1082 0.0 0.0 20016 968 tty3 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty3
root 1086 0.0 0.0 20016 960 tty6 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
kernoops 1171 0.0 0.0 37144 1008 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
/usr/sbin/kerneloops
root 1178 0.0 0.0 75484 3404 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
/usr/sbin/cups-browsed
root 1209 0.0 0.0 4368 692 ? Ss 11:12 0:00 acpid
-c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socke
root 1247 0.0 0.0 23656 1020 ? Ss 11:12 0:00 cron
daemon 1249 0.0 0.0 19140 160 ? Ss 11:12 0:00 atd
root 1264 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [iprt]
root 1314 3.2 0.2 1032288 22264 ? Sl 11:12 0:47
/usr/sbin/libvirtd -d
root 1344 0.0 0.0 20016 952 tty1 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
/sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1
whoopsie 1353 0.0 0.0 434928 5224 ? Ssl 11:12 0:00 whoopsie
root 1407 0.0 0.0 351736 3776 ? SLsl 11:12 0:00 lightdm
root 1423 2.3 0.6 431788 53720 tty7 Ssl+ 11:12 0:34
/usr/bin/X -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/li
root 1426 0.0 0.0 287468 4248 ? Sl 11:12 0:00
/usr/lib/accountsservice/accounts-daemon
root 1491 0.0 0.0 10232 3724 ? S 11:12 0:00
/sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-
nobody 1529 0.0 0.0 35224 1544 ? S 11:12 0:00
/usr/sbin/dnsmasq --no-resolv --keep-in-foregroun
root 1575 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [kauditd]
root 1705 0.1 0.1 72056 10964 ? Ssl 11:12 0:01
/opt/teamviewer9/tv_bin/teamviewerd -f
root 1790 0.0 0.0 170488 3876 ? Sl 11:13 0:00 lightdm
--session-child 12 19
root 1839 0.0 0.0 239448 4744 ? Sl 11:13 0:00
/usr/lib/upower/upowerd
rtkit 1851 0.0 0.0 168916 1308 ? SNl 11:13 0:00
/usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon
colord 2107 0.0 0.0 301564 7868 ? Sl 11:13 0:00
/usr/lib/colord/colord
root 2246 0.0 0.0 77104 4108 ? Ss 11:13 0:00
/usr/sbin/cupsd -f
libvirt+ 2266 0.0 0.0 28208 964 ? S 11:13 0:00
/usr/sbin/dnsmasq --conf-file=/var/lib/libvirt/dn
lp 2268 0.0 0.0 63156 1984 ? S 11:13 0:00
/usr/lib/cups/notifier/dbus dbus://
eric 2283 0.0 0.0 370644 3836 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
eric 2307 0.0 0.0 40204 2600 ? Ss 11:14 0:00 init --user
eric 2311 0.0 0.0 10616 508 ? Ss 11:14 0:00 ssh-agent
eric 2386 0.0 0.0 40024 2196 ? Ss 11:14 0:00
dbus-daemon --fork --session --address=unix:abstr
eric 2395 0.0 0.0 22300 1156 ? Ss 11:14 0:00
upstart-event-bridge
eric 2398 0.0 0.0 78200 4624 ? Ss 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/hud/window-stack-bridge
eric 2416 0.0 0.0 22308 396 ? S 11:14 0:00
upstart-dbus-bridge --daemon --session --user --b
eric 2417 0.0 0.0 22308 396 ? S 11:14 0:00
upstart-dbus-bridge --daemon --system --user --bu
eric 2421 0.0 0.0 30784 480 ? S 11:14 0:00
upstart-file-bridge --daemon --user
eric 2428 0.1 0.0 365256 8076 ? Ssl 11:14 0:01
/usr/bin/ibus-daemon --daemonize --xim
eric 2443 0.0 0.2 813556 18232 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-dae
eric 2446 0.0 0.3 712324 25324 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/hud/hud-service
eric 2449 0.0 0.0 337592 5420 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-bus-launcher --launc
eric 2450 0.0 0.1 649196 13316 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
gnome-session --session=ubuntu
eric 2455 0.1 0.2 575952 18840 ? Ssl 11:14 0:01
/usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service
eric 2457 0.0 0.0 39248 1976 ? S 11:14 0:00
/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/etc/at-spi2/acces
eric 2465 0.0 0.0 124912 3316 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gno
eric 2472 0.0 0.0 196640 3148 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
eric 2478 0.0 0.0 345664 3120 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f -
eric 2487 0.0 0.0 280880 5500 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/ibus/ibus-dconf
eric 2499 0.0 0.1 483580 14980 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/ibus/ibus-ui-gtk3
eric 2503 0.0 0.0 386820 7356 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/ibus/ibus-x11 --kill-daemon
eric 2506 0.0 0.2 557380 17316 ? Sl 11:14 0:01
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/bamf/bamfdaemon
eric 2516 0.0 0.0 205148 5444 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/ibus/ibus-engine-simple
eric 2554 0.0 0.0 335476 3428 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-messages/indi
eric 2555 0.0 0.1 591136 13216 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-keyboard-serv
eric 2556 0.0 0.0 263640 2904 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-bluetooth/ind
eric 2558 0.0 0.0 278584 5344 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-power/indicat
eric 2561 0.0 0.1 770068 14012 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-datetime/indi
eric 2567 0.0 0.0 479388 5948 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicat
eric 2568 0.0 0.1 446976 13460 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-printers/indi
eric 2580 0.0 0.0 521428 6384 ? S<l 11:14 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
eric 2581 0.0 0.0 762660 4000 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-session/indic
eric 2593 0.0 0.0 360480 7084 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application/i
eric 2615 0.0 0.0 178308 2768 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/dconf/dconf-service
eric 2626 0.0 0.1 480968 10688 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/evolution/evolution-source-registry
eric 2628 0.0 0.0 20232 940 ? S 11:14 0:00
syndaemon -i 1.0 -t -K -R
eric 2658 0.0 0.1 350296 15524 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/notify-osd
eric 2668 1.7 0.8 1283036 66452 ? Sl 11:14 0:24 compiz
eric 2724 0.0 0.5 803404 46068 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory
eric 2730 0.0 0.1 403376 9512 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-fallback-mou
eric 2731 0.0 0.2 674704 20268 ? Sl 11:14 0:00 nm-applet
eric 2740 0.0 0.1 331704 9504 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentic
eric 2743 0.0 0.3 830076 31016 ? Sl 11:14 0:00 nautilus -n
eric 2747 0.0 0.0 372704 5680 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
eric 2755 0.0 0.0 58260 3720 ? S 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconf/gconfd-2
root 2764 0.0 0.0 437148 7864 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd --no-debug
eric 2773 0.0 0.0 212568 3436 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
eric 2780 0.0 0.0 285964 3352 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
eric 2785 0.0 0.0 200276 2848 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
eric 2799 0.0 0.0 367604 5888 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.7 /org/gtk
eric 2805 0.0 0.0 270376 5100 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-burn --spawner :1.7 /org/gtk/
eric 2837 4.0 1.2 1481612 102828 ? Ssl 11:14 0:54 python
/usr/share/virt-manager/virt-manager.py
eric 2842 0.0 0.1 455016 11996 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
telepathy-indicator
eric 2849 0.0 0.0 322476 7344 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/telepathy/mission-control-5
eric 2867 0.0 0.1 467336 9200 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
zeitgeist-datahub
eric 2872 0.0 0.0 348872 4580 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon
eric 2878 0.0 0.1 252036 9412 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/zeitgeist-fts
eric 2890 0.0 0.0 11412 616 ? S 11:14 0:00 /bin/cat
root 2990 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00
[kworker/u5:2]
eric 2997 0.0 0.1 498104 13224 ? Sl 11:15 0:00
update-notifier
eric 3047 0.2 0.2 653160 20868 ? Sl 11:15 0:02
gnome-terminal
root 3054 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [dio/sdb3]
eric 3058 0.0 0.0 14824 812 ? S 11:15 0:00
gnome-pty-helper
eric 3059 0.0 0.0 26952 3924 pts/0 Ss 11:15 0:00 bash
eric 3147 0.0 0.0 377868 4168 ? Sl 11:16 0:00
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/deja-dup/deja-dup-monit
root 3911 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:25 0:00
[kworker/u4:0]
root 3966 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:26 0:00
[kworker/u4:1]
root 4074 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:28 0:00
[kworker/0:2]
root 4283 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:30 0:00
[kworker/1:1]
libvirt+ 4384 53.1 26.2 2642208 2131732 ? Sl 11:31 3:10
qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -name win7dns -S -
root 4386 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:31 0:00
[kvm-pit/4384]
root 4690 0.6 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:35 0:00
[kworker/1:2]
root 4694 1.5 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:36 0:01
[kworker/0:1]
eric 4720 16.5 2.9 1022024 240172 ? Sl 11:36 0:09
/usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird
root 4795 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:36 0:00
[kworker/u4:2]
eric 4848 0.0 0.0 22644 1292 pts/0 R+ 11:37 0:00 ps -aux
eric@garnet:~$
>
> Paolo
>
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* Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-21 16:52 ` Eric S. Johansson
@ 2014-11-21 18:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-21 18:24 ` next puzzle: " Eric S. Johansson
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2014-11-21 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric S. Johansson, kvm
On 21/11/2014 17:52, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>
> 4384 libvirt+ 20 0 2825112 2.058g 9960 R 109.1 26.6 12:47.73
> qemu-system-x86
>
> next report after updates install
>
> btw, would you like a better UI design for a management tool? I have
> some ideas but would need someone with hands to put it together.
I don't develop the management tool, but there are several. The most
advanced UI is probably in GNOME Boxes, but it also has less
functionality than virt-manager.
Paolo
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* next puzzle: Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-21 16:52 ` Eric S. Johansson
2014-11-21 18:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
@ 2014-11-21 18:24 ` Eric S. Johansson
2014-11-21 18:47 ` Eric S. Johansson
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S. Johansson @ 2014-11-21 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paolo Bonzini, kvm
On 11/21/2014 11:52 AM, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
>
>
> 4384 libvirt+ 20 0 2825112 2.058g 9960 R 109.1 26.6 12:47.73
> qemu-system-x86
>
> next report after updates install
next puzzle. updates are not working
using bridged to eth0
using virt io driver (checked install on windows)
browser works in vm (quite well in fact)
watching output of tcpdump
and there is no apparent traffic for updates.
any ideas?
>
> btw, would you like a better UI design for a management tool? I have
> some ideas but would need someone with hands to put it together.
>
> --- eric
>
> top sez
>
> Tasks: 182 total, 4 running, 178 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
> %Cpu(s): 44.2 us, 14.9 sy, 0.0 ni, 38.7 id, 2.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.2
> si, 0.0 st
> KiB Mem: 8128204 total, 4750320 used, 3377884 free, 54476 buffers
> KiB Swap: 8338428 total, 0 used, 8338428 free. 1996164
> cached Mem
>
> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> 4384 libvirt+ 20 0 2634992 2.033g 9940 R 108.6 26.2 2:02.83
> qemu-syste+
> 2668 eric 20 0 1284184 66308 29828 S 2.3 0.8 0:21.50 compiz
> 1314 root 20 0 1032288 22264 11436 S 2.0 0.3 0:46.29
> libvirtd
> 18 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 1.7 0.0 0:00.96
> kworker/1:0
> 1423 root 20 0 410736 49196 35228 S 1.7 0.6 0:32.18 Xorg
> 4694 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 1.7 0.0 0:00.20
> kworker/0:1
> 2837 eric 20 0 1481612 102828 38476 S 1.0 1.3 0:54.03 python
> 2628 eric 20 0 20232 940 768 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.69
> syndaemon
> 3047 eric 20 0 653160 20868 12472 S 0.3 0.3 0:02.14
> gnome-term+
> 3147 eric 20 0 377868 4168 3288 S 0.3 0.1 0:00.04
> deja-dup-m+
> 1 root 20 0 33908 3280 1472 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.62 init
> 2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
> kthreadd
> 3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.16
> ksoftirqd/0
> 4 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.72
> kworker/0:0
> 5 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00
> kworker/0:+
> 7 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.50
> rcu_sched
> 8 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 0.0 0.0 0:00.40 rcuos/0
> eric@garnet:~$
> ps aux sez
>
> eric@garnet:~$ ps -aux
> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> root 1 0.1 0.0 33908 3280 ? Ss 11:12 0:01
> /sbin/init
> root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [kthreadd]
> root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [ksoftirqd/0]
> root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [kworker/0:0]
> root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [kworker/0:0H]
> root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [rcu_sched]
> root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [rcuos/0]
> root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [rcuos/1]
> root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [rcu_bh]
> root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [rcuob/0]
> root 12 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [rcuob/1]
> root 13 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [migration/0]
> root 14 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [watchdog/0]
> root 15 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [watchdog/1]
> root 16 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [migration/1]
> root 17 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [ksoftirqd/1]
> root 18 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:01
> [kworker/1:0]
> root 19 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [kworker/1:0H]
> root 20 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [khelper]
> root 21 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [kdevtmpfs]
> root 22 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [netns]
> root 23 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [writeback]
> root 24 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [kintegrityd]
> root 25 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [bioset]
> root 26 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [kworker/u5:0]
> root 27 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [kblockd]
> root 28 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [ata_sff]
> root 29 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00 [khubd]
> root 30 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [md]
> root 31 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [devfreq_wq]
> root 34 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [khungtaskd]
> root 35 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [kswapd0]
> root 36 0.1 0.0 0 0 ? SN 11:12 0:02 [ksmd]
> root 37 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 11:12 0:00
> [khugepaged]
> root 38 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [fsnotify_mark]
> root 39 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [ecryptfs-kthrea]
> root 40 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [crypto]
> root 52 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [kthrotld]
> root 74 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [deferwq]
> root 75 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [charger_manager]
> root 123 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [kpsmoused]
> root 124 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [firewire]
> root 125 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [firewire_ohci]
> root 126 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [scsi_eh_0]
> root 127 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [scsi_eh_1]
> root 128 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [scsi_eh_2]
> root 129 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [scsi_eh_3]
> root 130 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [scsi_eh_4]
> root 131 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [scsi_eh_5]
> root 133 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [kworker/u4:4]
> root 139 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [scsi_eh_6]
> root 140 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [usb-storage]
> root 150 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [jbd2/sda3-8]
> root 151 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [ext4-rsv-conver]
> root 317 0.0 0.0 19608 912 ? S 11:12 0:00
> upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
> root 343 0.0 0.0 51752 1972 ? Ss 11:12 0:01
> /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --daemon
> root 369 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [jbd2/sdb3-8]
> root 370 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [ext4-rsv-conver]
> root 426 0.0 0.0 15276 628 ? S 11:12 0:00
> upstart-file-bridge --daemon
> root 471 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [cfg80211]
> syslog 506 0.0 0.0 255844 1276 ? Ssl 11:12 0:00 rsyslogd
> root 529 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [pccardd]
> root 587 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [kvm-irqfd-clean]
> root 594 0.1 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:01
> [irq/46-iwlwifi]
> root 603 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [kmpathd]
> root 604 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [kmpath_handlerd]
> root 647 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [iwlwifi]
> message+ 655 0.0 0.0 40196 2480 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
> dbus-daemon --system --fork
> root 679 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00
> [hd-audio0]
> root 774 0.0 0.0 15260 396 ? S 11:12 0:00
> upstart-socket-bridge --daemon
> root 776 0.0 0.0 19292 1712 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
> /usr/sbin/bluetoothd
> root 819 0.0 0.0 330236 4432 ? Ssl 11:12 0:00
> /usr/sbin/ModemManager
> root 831 0.0 0.0 43560 1924 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
> /lib/systemd/systemd-logind
> root 851 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [krfcommd]
> avahi 872 0.0 0.0 32356 1668 ? S 11:12 0:00
> avahi-daemon: running [garnet.local]
> avahi 874 0.0 0.0 32224 464 ? S 11:12 0:00
> avahi-daemon: chroot helper
> root 937 0.0 0.1 345036 8612 ? Ssl 11:12 0:00
> NetworkManager
> root 943 0.0 0.0 281472 5420 ? Sl 11:12 0:00
> /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
> root 1065 0.0 0.0 20016 968 tty4 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
> /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4
> root 1069 0.0 0.0 20016 968 tty5 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
> /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty5
> root 1071 0.0 0.0 30608 2652 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
> /sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -P /run/sendsigs.omit.d/w
> root 1079 0.0 0.0 20016 968 tty2 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
> /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty2
> root 1082 0.0 0.0 20016 968 tty3 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
> /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty3
> root 1086 0.0 0.0 20016 960 tty6 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
> /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
> kernoops 1171 0.0 0.0 37144 1008 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
> /usr/sbin/kerneloops
> root 1178 0.0 0.0 75484 3404 ? Ss 11:12 0:00
> /usr/sbin/cups-browsed
> root 1209 0.0 0.0 4368 692 ? Ss 11:12 0:00 acpid
> -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socke
> root 1247 0.0 0.0 23656 1020 ? Ss 11:12 0:00 cron
> daemon 1249 0.0 0.0 19140 160 ? Ss 11:12 0:00 atd
> root 1264 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:12 0:00 [iprt]
> root 1314 3.2 0.2 1032288 22264 ? Sl 11:12 0:47
> /usr/sbin/libvirtd -d
> root 1344 0.0 0.0 20016 952 tty1 Ss+ 11:12 0:00
> /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1
> whoopsie 1353 0.0 0.0 434928 5224 ? Ssl 11:12 0:00 whoopsie
> root 1407 0.0 0.0 351736 3776 ? SLsl 11:12 0:00 lightdm
> root 1423 2.3 0.6 431788 53720 tty7 Ssl+ 11:12 0:34
> /usr/bin/X -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/li
> root 1426 0.0 0.0 287468 4248 ? Sl 11:12 0:00
> /usr/lib/accountsservice/accounts-daemon
> root 1491 0.0 0.0 10232 3724 ? S 11:12 0:00
> /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-
> nobody 1529 0.0 0.0 35224 1544 ? S 11:12 0:00
> /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --no-resolv --keep-in-foregroun
> root 1575 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:12 0:00
> [kauditd]
> root 1705 0.1 0.1 72056 10964 ? Ssl 11:12 0:01
> /opt/teamviewer9/tv_bin/teamviewerd -f
> root 1790 0.0 0.0 170488 3876 ? Sl 11:13 0:00
> lightdm --session-child 12 19
> root 1839 0.0 0.0 239448 4744 ? Sl 11:13 0:00
> /usr/lib/upower/upowerd
> rtkit 1851 0.0 0.0 168916 1308 ? SNl 11:13 0:00
> /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon
> colord 2107 0.0 0.0 301564 7868 ? Sl 11:13 0:00
> /usr/lib/colord/colord
> root 2246 0.0 0.0 77104 4108 ? Ss 11:13 0:00
> /usr/sbin/cupsd -f
> libvirt+ 2266 0.0 0.0 28208 964 ? S 11:13 0:00
> /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --conf-file=/var/lib/libvirt/dn
> lp 2268 0.0 0.0 63156 1984 ? S 11:13 0:00
> /usr/lib/cups/notifier/dbus dbus://
> eric 2283 0.0 0.0 370644 3836 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
> eric 2307 0.0 0.0 40204 2600 ? Ss 11:14 0:00 init
> --user
> eric 2311 0.0 0.0 10616 508 ? Ss 11:14 0:00
> ssh-agent
> eric 2386 0.0 0.0 40024 2196 ? Ss 11:14 0:00
> dbus-daemon --fork --session --address=unix:abstr
> eric 2395 0.0 0.0 22300 1156 ? Ss 11:14 0:00
> upstart-event-bridge
> eric 2398 0.0 0.0 78200 4624 ? Ss 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/hud/window-stack-bridge
> eric 2416 0.0 0.0 22308 396 ? S 11:14 0:00
> upstart-dbus-bridge --daemon --session --user --b
> eric 2417 0.0 0.0 22308 396 ? S 11:14 0:00
> upstart-dbus-bridge --daemon --system --user --bu
> eric 2421 0.0 0.0 30784 480 ? S 11:14 0:00
> upstart-file-bridge --daemon --user
> eric 2428 0.1 0.0 365256 8076 ? Ssl 11:14 0:01
> /usr/bin/ibus-daemon --daemonize --xim
> eric 2443 0.0 0.2 813556 18232 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-dae
> eric 2446 0.0 0.3 712324 25324 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/hud/hud-service
> eric 2449 0.0 0.0 337592 5420 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-bus-launcher --launc
> eric 2450 0.0 0.1 649196 13316 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> gnome-session --session=ubuntu
> eric 2455 0.1 0.2 575952 18840 ? Ssl 11:14 0:01
> /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service
> eric 2457 0.0 0.0 39248 1976 ? S 11:14 0:00
> /bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/etc/at-spi2/acces
> eric 2465 0.0 0.0 124912 3316 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gno
> eric 2472 0.0 0.0 196640 3148 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd
> eric 2478 0.0 0.0 345664 3120 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs -f -
> eric 2487 0.0 0.0 280880 5500 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/ibus/ibus-dconf
> eric 2499 0.0 0.1 483580 14980 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/ibus/ibus-ui-gtk3
> eric 2503 0.0 0.0 386820 7356 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/ibus/ibus-x11 --kill-daemon
> eric 2506 0.0 0.2 557380 17316 ? Sl 11:14 0:01
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/bamf/bamfdaemon
> eric 2516 0.0 0.0 205148 5444 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/ibus/ibus-engine-simple
> eric 2554 0.0 0.0 335476 3428 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-messages/indi
> eric 2555 0.0 0.1 591136 13216 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-keyboard-serv
> eric 2556 0.0 0.0 263640 2904 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-bluetooth/ind
> eric 2558 0.0 0.0 278584 5344 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-power/indicat
> eric 2561 0.0 0.1 770068 14012 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-datetime/indi
> eric 2567 0.0 0.0 479388 5948 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicat
> eric 2568 0.0 0.1 446976 13460 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-printers/indi
> eric 2580 0.0 0.0 521428 6384 ? S<l 11:14 0:00
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
> eric 2581 0.0 0.0 762660 4000 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-session/indic
> eric 2593 0.0 0.0 360480 7084 ? Ssl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application/i
> eric 2615 0.0 0.0 178308 2768 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/dconf/dconf-service
> eric 2626 0.0 0.1 480968 10688 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-source-registry
> eric 2628 0.0 0.0 20232 940 ? S 11:14 0:00
> syndaemon -i 1.0 -t -K -R
> eric 2658 0.0 0.1 350296 15524 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/notify-osd
> eric 2668 1.7 0.8 1283036 66452 ? Sl 11:14 0:24 compiz
> eric 2724 0.0 0.5 803404 46068 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory
> eric 2730 0.0 0.1 403376 9512 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-fallback-mou
> eric 2731 0.0 0.2 674704 20268 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> nm-applet
> eric 2740 0.0 0.1 331704 9504 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentic
> eric 2743 0.0 0.3 830076 31016 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> nautilus -n
> eric 2747 0.0 0.0 372704 5680 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
> eric 2755 0.0 0.0 58260 3720 ? S 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconf/gconfd-2
> root 2764 0.0 0.0 437148 7864 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/udisks2/udisksd --no-debug
> eric 2773 0.0 0.0 212568 3436 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
> eric 2780 0.0 0.0 285964 3352 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
> eric 2785 0.0 0.0 200276 2848 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
> eric 2799 0.0 0.0 367604 5888 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.7 /org/gtk
> eric 2805 0.0 0.0 270376 5100 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-burn --spawner :1.7 /org/gtk/
> eric 2837 4.0 1.2 1481612 102828 ? Ssl 11:14 0:54
> python /usr/share/virt-manager/virt-manager.py
> eric 2842 0.0 0.1 455016 11996 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> telepathy-indicator
> eric 2849 0.0 0.0 322476 7344 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/telepathy/mission-control-5
> eric 2867 0.0 0.1 467336 9200 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> zeitgeist-datahub
> eric 2872 0.0 0.0 348872 4580 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon
> eric 2878 0.0 0.1 252036 9412 ? Sl 11:14 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/zeitgeist-fts
> eric 2890 0.0 0.0 11412 616 ? S 11:14 0:00 /bin/cat
> root 2990 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00
> [kworker/u5:2]
> eric 2997 0.0 0.1 498104 13224 ? Sl 11:15 0:00
> update-notifier
> eric 3047 0.2 0.2 653160 20868 ? Sl 11:15 0:02
> gnome-terminal
> root 3054 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:15 0:00 [dio/sdb3]
> eric 3058 0.0 0.0 14824 812 ? S 11:15 0:00
> gnome-pty-helper
> eric 3059 0.0 0.0 26952 3924 pts/0 Ss 11:15 0:00 bash
> eric 3147 0.0 0.0 377868 4168 ? Sl 11:16 0:00
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/deja-dup/deja-dup-monit
> root 3911 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:25 0:00
> [kworker/u4:0]
> root 3966 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:26 0:00
> [kworker/u4:1]
> root 4074 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:28 0:00
> [kworker/0:2]
> root 4283 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:30 0:00
> [kworker/1:1]
> libvirt+ 4384 53.1 26.2 2642208 2131732 ? Sl 11:31 3:10
> qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -name win7dns -S -
> root 4386 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:31 0:00
> [kvm-pit/4384]
> root 4690 0.6 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:35 0:00
> [kworker/1:2]
> root 4694 1.5 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:36 0:01
> [kworker/0:1]
> eric 4720 16.5 2.9 1022024 240172 ? Sl 11:36 0:09
> /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird
> root 4795 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:36 0:00
> [kworker/u4:2]
> eric 4848 0.0 0.0 22644 1292 pts/0 R+ 11:37 0:00 ps -aux
> eric@garnet:~$
>
>
>
>>
>> Paolo
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* Re: next puzzle: Re: can I make this work… (Foundation for accessibility project)
2014-11-21 18:24 ` next puzzle: " Eric S. Johansson
@ 2014-11-21 18:47 ` Eric S. Johansson
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S. Johansson @ 2014-11-21 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Paolo Bonzini, kvm
a little more info
On 11/21/2014 01:24 PM, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> next puzzle. updates are not working
> using bridged to eth0
> using virt io driver (checked install on windows)
> browser works in vm (quite well in fact)
> watching output of tcpdump
>
> and there is no apparent traffic for updates.
in resource manager, svchost.exe (netsvcs) is running at 100%
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