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From: Mario Smarduch <m.smarduch@samsung.com>
To: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, marc.zyngier@arm.com,
	drjones@redhat.com, wei@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] arm, arm64: KVM: handle potential incoherency of readonly memslots
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:50:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <546FEBF3.6030401@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141121111936.GA1785@cbox>

On 11/21/2014 03:19 AM, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> Hi Mario,
> 
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:32:31PM -0800, Mario Smarduch wrote:
>> Hi Laszlo,
>>
>> couple observations.
>>
>>      I'm wondering if access from qemu and guest won't
>> result in mixed memory attributes and if that's acceptable
>> to the CPU.
>>
>> Also is if you update memory from qemu you may break
>> dirty page logging/migration. Unless there is some other way
>> you keep track. Of course it may not be applicable in your
>> case (i.e. flash unused after boot).
>>
> I'm not concerned about this particular case; dirty page logging exists
> so KVM can inform userspace when a page may have been dirtied.  If
> userspace directly dirties (is that a verb?) a page, 
I would think so, I rely on software too much :)
> then it already knows that it needs to migrate that page and 
> deal with it accordingly.
> 
> Or did I miss some more subtle point here

QEMU has a global migration bitmap for all regions initially set
dirty, and it's updated over iterations with KVM's dirty bitmap. Once
dirty pages are migrated bits are cleared. If QEMU updates a
memory region directly I can't see how it's reflected in  that migration
bitmap that determines what pages should be migrated as it makes
it's passes. On x86 if host updates guest memory it marks that
page dirty.

But virtio writes to guest memory directly and that appears to
work just fine. I read that code sometime back, and will need to revisit.

- Mario

> 
> -Christoffer
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-22  1:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-17 14:58 [PATCH 1/3] kvm: add a memslot flag for incoherent memory regions Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-17 14:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] arm, arm64: KVM: allow forced dcache flush on page faults Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-17 14:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm, arm64: KVM: handle potential incoherency of readonly memslots Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-17 15:29   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-17 15:39     ` Marc Zyngier
2014-11-17 16:03       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-17 15:49     ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-19 23:32       ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-20  8:08         ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-20 18:35           ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-20 18:40             ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-20 19:15               ` Mario Smarduch
2014-11-20 19:49               ` Jon Masters
2014-11-20 20:10                 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-20 21:13                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-20 21:59                     ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-21 11:19         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-22  1:50           ` Mario Smarduch [this message]
2014-11-22 10:18             ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-22 10:26               ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-22 12:27             ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19  8:51   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2014-11-19 11:02     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 11:03     ` Paolo Bonzini

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