From: Valentine Sinitsyn <valentine.sinitsyn@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Jailhouse <jailhouse-dev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: SVM: vmload/vmsave-free VM exits?
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 22:12:05 +0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55216CE5.9000504@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5520F2C8.7090102@web.de>
Hi Jan,
On 05.04.2015 13:31, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> studying the VM exit logic of Jailhouse, I was wondering when AMD's
> vmload/vmsave can be avoided. Jailhouse as well as KVM currently use
> these instructions unconditionally. However, I think both only need
> GS.base, i.e. the per-cpu base address, to be saved and restored if no
> user space exit or no CPU migration is involved (both is always true for
> Jailhouse). Xen avoids vmload/vmsave on lightweight exits but it also
> still uses rsp-based per-cpu variables.
>
> So the question boils down to what is generally faster:
>
> A) vmload
> vmrun
> vmsave
>
> B) wrmsrl(MSR_GS_BASE, guest_gs_base)
> vmrun
> rdmsrl(MSR_GS_BASE, guest_gs_base)
>
> Of course, KVM also has to take into account that heavyweight exits
> still require vmload/vmsave, thus become more expensive with B) due to
> the additional MSR accesses.
>
> Any thoughts or results of previous experiments?
That's a good question, I also thought about it when I was finalizing
Jailhouse AMD port. I tried "lightweight exits" with apic-demo but it
didn't seem to affect the latency in any noticeable way. That's why I
decided not to push the patch (in fact, I was even unable to find it now).
Note however that how AMD chips store host state during VM switches are
implementation-specific. I did my quick experiments on one CPU only, so
your mileage may vary.
Regarding your question, I feel B will be faster anyways but again I'm
afraid that the gain could be within statistical error of the experiment.
Valentine
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-05 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-05 8:31 SVM: vmload/vmsave-free VM exits? Jan Kiszka
2015-04-05 17:12 ` Valentine Sinitsyn [this message]
2015-04-07 5:43 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-07 6:10 ` Valentine Sinitsyn
2015-04-07 6:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-07 6:19 ` Valentine Sinitsyn
2015-04-07 6:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-07 6:29 ` Valentine Sinitsyn
2015-04-07 6:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-13 7:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-13 17:29 ` Avi Kivity
2015-04-13 17:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-13 17:41 ` Avi Kivity
2015-04-13 17:48 ` Avi Kivity
2015-04-13 17:57 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-13 18:07 ` Avi Kivity
2015-04-13 18:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-14 6:39 ` Valentine Sinitsyn
2015-04-14 7:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-14 7:11 ` Valentine Sinitsyn
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