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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel <Xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 0/3] x86/paravirt: Fix baremetal paravirt MSR ops
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:11:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55FAD83A.3010307@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55FA8381.5010604@citrix.com>

On 09/17/2015 05:10 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 17/09/15 00:33, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> Setting CONFIG_PARAVIRT=y has an unintended side effect: it silently
>> turns all rdmsr and wrmsr operations into the safe variants without
>> any checks that the operations actually succeed.
>>
>> This is IMO awful: it papers over bugs.  In particular, KVM gueests
>> might be unwittingly depending on this behavior because
>> CONFIG_KVM_GUEST currently depends on CONFIG_PARAVIRT.  I'm not
>> aware of any such problems, but applying this series would be a good
>> way to shake them out.
>>
>> Fix it so that the MSR operations work the same on CONFIG_PARAVIRT=n
>> and CONFIG_PARAVIRT=y as long as Xen isn't being used.  The Xen
>> maintainers are welcome to make a similar change on top of this.
> The Xen side of things need some further modification before this would
> be a safe operation to perform.
>
> On the wrmsr side of things alone, this is the list of things Xen
> currently objects to and injects #GP faults for.
>
> (XEN) traps.c:2692:d0v0 Domain attempted WRMSR 00000000c0000081 from
> 0xe023e00800000000 to 0x0023001000000000.
> (XEN) traps.c:2692:d0v0 Domain attempted WRMSR 00000000c0000082 from
> 0xffff82d0bffff000 to 0xffffffff81560060.
> (XEN) traps.c:2692:d0v0 Domain attempted WRMSR 00000000c0000083 from
> 0xffff82d0bffff020 to 0xffffffff81558100.
> (XEN) traps.c:2692:d0v0 Domain attempted WRMSR 0000000000000174 from
> 0x000000000000e008 to 0x0000000000000010.
> (XEN) traps.c:2692:d0v0 Domain attempted WRMSR 0000000000000175 from
> 0xffff8300ac0f7fc0 to 0x0000000000000000.
> (XEN) traps.c:2692:d0v0 Domain attempted WRMSR 0000000000000176 from
> 0xffff82d08023fd50 to 0xffffffff815616d0.
> (XEN) traps.c:2692:d0v0 Domain attempted WRMSR 00000000c0000083 from
> 0xffff82d0bffff020 to 0xffffffff81561910.
> (XEN) traps.c:2692:d0v0 Domain attempted WRMSR 00000000c0000084 from
> 0x0000000000074700 to 0x0000000000047700.
>
> However, it would be certainly be worth teaching PVops not to play with
> MSRs it doesn't own.

PVops already knows about those. There is even has a comment about how 
we shouldn't touch those MSRs. And yet three lines later we still write 
them.

-boris

      reply	other threads:[~2015-09-17 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-16 23:33 [PATCH 0/3] x86/paravirt: Fix baremetal paravirt MSR ops Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-16 23:33 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/paravirt: Add _safe to the read_msr and write_msr PV hooks Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-16 23:33 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/paravirt: Add paravirt_{read,write}_msr Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-16 23:33 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/paravirt: Make "unsafe" MSR accesses unsafe even if PARAVIRT=y Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17  7:19 ` [PATCH 0/3] x86/paravirt: Fix baremetal paravirt MSR ops Ingo Molnar
2015-09-17  9:31   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-17 11:22     ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-17 11:39     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 15:27       ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-17 15:32         ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-09-17 15:37           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-17 15:23   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17 15:27     ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-09-17 15:29       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 15:31         ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-09-17 15:33           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 17:30     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-17 18:51       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17  8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 11:40   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17 12:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:17       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17 15:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:26           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-17 15:29             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-17  9:10 ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-09-17 15:11   ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]

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