From: "Lan, Tianyu" <tianyu.lan@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: aik@ozlabs.ru, alex.williamson@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com,
anthony@codemonkey.ws, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
blauwirbel@gmail.com, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
eddie.dong@intel.com, nrupal.jani@intel.com, agraf@suse.de,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
emil.s.tantilov@intel.com, gerlitz.or@gmail.com,
donald.c.skidmore@intel.com, mark.d.rustad@intel.com,
kraxel@redhat.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 14:26:57 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <565D3DB1.5050902@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151130095454-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
On 11/30/2015 4:01 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> It is still not very clear what it is you are trying to achieve, and
> whether your patchset achieves it. You merely say "adding live
> migration" but it seems pretty clear this isn't about being able to
> migrate a guest transparently, since you are adding a host/guest
> handshake.
>
> This isn't about functionality either: I think that on KVM, it isn't
> hard to live migrate if you can do a host/guest handshake, even today,
> with no kernel changes:
> 1. before migration, expose a pv nic to guest (can be done directly on
> boot)
> 2. use e.g. a serial connection to move IP from an assigned device to pv nic
> 3. maybe move the mac as well
> 4. eject the assigned device
> 5. detect eject on host (QEMU generates a DEVICE_DELETED event when this
> happens) and start migration
>
This looks like the bonding driver solution which put pv nic and VF
in one bonded interface under active-backup mode. The bonding driver
will switch from VF to PV nic automatically when VF is unplugged during
migration. This is the only available solution for VF NIC migration. But
it requires guest OS to do specific configurations inside and rely on
bonding driver which blocks it work on Windows. From performance side,
putting VF and virtio NIC under bonded interface will affect their
performance even when not do migration. These factors block to use VF
NIC passthough in some user cases(Especially in the cloud) which require
migration.
Current solution we proposed changes NIC driver and Qemu. Guest Os
doesn't need to do special thing for migration. It's easy to deploy and
all changes are in the NIC driver, NIC vendor can implement migration
support just in the their driver.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-01 6:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-24 13:35 [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 01/10] Qemu/VFIO: Create head file pci.h to share data struct Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 02/10] Qemu/VFIO: Add new VFIO_GET_PCI_CAP_INFO ioctl cmd definition Lan Tianyu
2015-12-02 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2015-12-03 8:40 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-03 15:26 ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 03/10] Qemu/VFIO: Rework vfio_std_cap_max_size() function Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 04/10] Qemu/VFIO: Add vfio_find_free_cfg_reg() to find free PCI config space regs Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 05/10] Qemu/VFIO: Expose PCI config space read/write and msix functions Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 06/10] Qemu/PCI: Add macros for faked PCI migration capability Lan Tianyu
2015-12-02 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2015-12-03 8:57 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 07/10] Qemu: Add post_load_state() to run after restoring CPU state Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 08/10] Qemu: Add save_before_stop callback to run just before stopping VCPU during migration Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 09/10] Qemu/VFIO: Add SRIOV VF migration support Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 21:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-25 15:32 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-25 15:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-02 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2015-12-03 8:56 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 10/10] Qemu/VFIO: Misc change for enable migration with VFIO Lan Tianyu
2015-11-30 8:01 ` [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-01 6:26 ` Lan, Tianyu [this message]
2015-12-01 15:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-02 14:08 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-02 14:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-03 14:53 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-04 6:42 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-04 8:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-04 12:11 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-03 18:32 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-07 16:50 ` live migration vs device assignment (was Re: [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC) Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-09 16:26 ` live migration vs device assignment (motivation) Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-09 17:14 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-10 3:15 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-09 20:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 3:04 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-10 8:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 14:23 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-10 10:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-12-10 11:28 ` Yang Zhang
2015-12-10 11:41 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-12-10 13:07 ` Yang Zhang
2015-12-10 14:38 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-10 16:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 19:17 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-11 7:32 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-14 9:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 16:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-12-10 17:16 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-13 15:47 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-13 19:30 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-25 7:03 ` Lan Tianyu
2015-12-25 12:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-28 17:42 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-29 16:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-29 17:04 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-29 17:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-29 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Duyck
2016-01-04 2:15 ` Lan Tianyu
2015-12-25 22:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-27 9:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-27 21:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Duyck
2015-12-28 8:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-28 3:20 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-12-28 4:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-28 11:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-14 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-28 8:52 ` Pavel Fedin
2015-12-28 11:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 9:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Wei Yang
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