From: "Lan, Tianyu" <tianyu.lan@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, emil.s.tantilov@intel.com,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org, aik@ozlabs.ru,
donald.c.skidmore@intel.com, quintela@redhat.com,
eddie.dong@intel.com, nrupal.jani@intel.com, agraf@suse.de,
blauwirbel@gmail.com, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
alex.williamson@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com,
anthony@codemonkey.ws, amit.shah@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
mark.d.rustad@intel.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com,
gerlitz.or@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 22:08:25 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <565EFB59.1000005@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151201164327-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
On 12/1/2015 11:02 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> But
>> it requires guest OS to do specific configurations inside and rely on
>> bonding driver which blocks it work on Windows.
>> From performance side,
>> putting VF and virtio NIC under bonded interface will affect their
>> performance even when not do migration. These factors block to use VF
>> NIC passthough in some user cases(Especially in the cloud) which require
>> migration.
>
> That's really up to guest. You don't need to do bonding,
> you can just move the IP and mac from userspace, that's
> possible on most OS-es.
>
> Or write something in guest kernel that is more lightweight if you are
> so inclined. What we are discussing here is the host-guest interface,
> not the in-guest interface.
>
>> Current solution we proposed changes NIC driver and Qemu. Guest Os
>> doesn't need to do special thing for migration.
>> It's easy to deploy
>
>
> Except of course these patches don't even work properly yet.
>
> And when they do, even minor changes in host side NIC hardware across
> migration will break guests in hard to predict ways.
Switching between PV and VF NIC will introduce network stop and the
latency of hotplug VF is measurable. For some user cases(cloud service
and OPNFV) which are sensitive to network stabilization and performance,
these are not friend and blocks SRIOV NIC usage in these case. We hope
to find a better way to make SRIOV NIC work in these cases and this is
worth to do since SRIOV NIC provides better network performance compared
with PV NIC. Current patches have some issues. I think we can find
solution for them andimprove them step by step.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-02 14:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-24 13:35 [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 01/10] Qemu/VFIO: Create head file pci.h to share data struct Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 02/10] Qemu/VFIO: Add new VFIO_GET_PCI_CAP_INFO ioctl cmd definition Lan Tianyu
2015-12-02 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2015-12-03 8:40 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-03 15:26 ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 03/10] Qemu/VFIO: Rework vfio_std_cap_max_size() function Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 04/10] Qemu/VFIO: Add vfio_find_free_cfg_reg() to find free PCI config space regs Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 05/10] Qemu/VFIO: Expose PCI config space read/write and msix functions Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 06/10] Qemu/PCI: Add macros for faked PCI migration capability Lan Tianyu
2015-12-02 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2015-12-03 8:57 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 07/10] Qemu: Add post_load_state() to run after restoring CPU state Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 08/10] Qemu: Add save_before_stop callback to run just before stopping VCPU during migration Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 09/10] Qemu/VFIO: Add SRIOV VF migration support Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 21:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-25 15:32 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-25 15:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-02 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2015-12-03 8:56 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 10/10] Qemu/VFIO: Misc change for enable migration with VFIO Lan Tianyu
2015-11-30 8:01 ` [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-01 6:26 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-01 15:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-02 14:08 ` Lan, Tianyu [this message]
2015-12-02 14:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-03 14:53 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-04 6:42 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-04 8:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-04 12:11 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-03 18:32 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-07 16:50 ` live migration vs device assignment (was Re: [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC) Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-09 16:26 ` live migration vs device assignment (motivation) Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-09 17:14 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-10 3:15 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-09 20:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 3:04 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-10 8:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 14:23 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-10 10:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-12-10 11:28 ` Yang Zhang
2015-12-10 11:41 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-12-10 13:07 ` Yang Zhang
2015-12-10 14:38 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-10 16:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 19:17 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-11 7:32 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-14 9:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 16:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-12-10 17:16 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-13 15:47 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-13 19:30 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-25 7:03 ` Lan Tianyu
2015-12-25 12:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-28 17:42 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-29 16:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-29 17:04 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-29 17:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-29 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Duyck
2016-01-04 2:15 ` Lan Tianyu
2015-12-25 22:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-27 9:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-27 21:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Duyck
2015-12-28 8:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-28 3:20 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-12-28 4:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-28 11:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-14 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-28 8:52 ` Pavel Fedin
2015-12-28 11:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 9:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Wei Yang
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