From: "Lan, Tianyu" <tianyu.lan@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: aik@ozlabs.ru, alex.williamson@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com,
anthony@codemonkey.ws, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
blauwirbel@gmail.com, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
eddie.dong@intel.com, nrupal.jani@intel.com, agraf@suse.de,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
emil.s.tantilov@intel.com, gerlitz.or@gmail.com,
donald.c.skidmore@intel.com, mark.d.rustad@intel.com,
kraxel@redhat.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com
Subject: Re: live migration vs device assignment (motivation)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:26:25 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56685631.50700@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151207165039.GA20210@redhat.com>
On 12/8/2015 12:50 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> I thought about what this is doing at the high level, and I do have some
> value in what you are trying to do, but I also think we need to clarify
> the motivation a bit more. What you are saying is not really what the
> patches are doing.
>
> And with that clearer understanding of the motivation in mind (assuming
> it actually captures a real need), I would also like to suggest some
> changes.
Motivation:
Most current solutions for migration with passthough device are based on
the PCI hotplug but it has side affect and can't work for all device.
For NIC device:
PCI hotplug solution can work around Network device migration
via switching VF and PF.
But switching network interface will introduce service down time.
I tested the service down time via putting VF and PV interface
into a bonded interface and ping the bonded interface during plug
and unplug VF.
1) About 100ms when add VF
2) About 30ms when del VF
It also requires guest to do switch configuration. These are hard to
manage and deploy from our customers. To maintain PV performance during
migration, host side also needs to assign a VF to PV device. This
affects scalability.
These factors block SRIOV NIC passthough usage in the cloud service and
OPNFV which require network high performance and stability a lot.
For other kind of devices, it's hard to work.
We are also adding migration support for QAT(QuickAssist Technology) device.
QAT device user case introduction.
Server, networking, big data, and storage applications use QuickAssist
Technology to offload servers from handling compute-intensive
operations, such as:
1) Symmetric cryptography functions including cipher operations and
authentication operations
2) Public key functions including RSA, Diffie-Hellman, and elliptic
curve cryptography
3) Compression and decompression functions including DEFLATE and LZS
PCI hotplug will not work for such devices during migration and these
operations will fail when unplug device.
So we are trying implementing a new solution which really migrates
device state to target machine and won't affect user during migration
with low service down time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-09 16:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-24 13:35 [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 01/10] Qemu/VFIO: Create head file pci.h to share data struct Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 02/10] Qemu/VFIO: Add new VFIO_GET_PCI_CAP_INFO ioctl cmd definition Lan Tianyu
2015-12-02 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2015-12-03 8:40 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-03 15:26 ` Alex Williamson
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 03/10] Qemu/VFIO: Rework vfio_std_cap_max_size() function Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 04/10] Qemu/VFIO: Add vfio_find_free_cfg_reg() to find free PCI config space regs Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 05/10] Qemu/VFIO: Expose PCI config space read/write and msix functions Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 06/10] Qemu/PCI: Add macros for faked PCI migration capability Lan Tianyu
2015-12-02 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2015-12-03 8:57 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 07/10] Qemu: Add post_load_state() to run after restoring CPU state Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 08/10] Qemu: Add save_before_stop callback to run just before stopping VCPU during migration Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 09/10] Qemu/VFIO: Add SRIOV VF migration support Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 21:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-25 15:32 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-25 15:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-02 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2015-12-03 8:56 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:35 ` [RFC PATCH V2 10/10] Qemu/VFIO: Misc change for enable migration with VFIO Lan Tianyu
2015-11-30 8:01 ` [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-01 6:26 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-01 15:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-02 14:08 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-02 14:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-03 14:53 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-04 6:42 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-04 8:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-04 12:11 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-03 18:32 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-07 16:50 ` live migration vs device assignment (was Re: [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC) Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-09 16:26 ` Lan, Tianyu [this message]
2015-12-09 17:14 ` live migration vs device assignment (motivation) Alexander Duyck
2015-12-10 3:15 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-09 20:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 3:04 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-10 8:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 14:23 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-10 10:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-12-10 11:28 ` Yang Zhang
2015-12-10 11:41 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-12-10 13:07 ` Yang Zhang
2015-12-10 14:38 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-10 16:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 19:17 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-11 7:32 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-14 9:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-10 16:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-12-10 17:16 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-13 15:47 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-13 19:30 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-25 7:03 ` Lan Tianyu
2015-12-25 12:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-28 17:42 ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-29 16:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-29 17:04 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-29 17:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-29 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Duyck
2016-01-04 2:15 ` Lan Tianyu
2015-12-25 22:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-27 9:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-27 21:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Duyck
2015-12-28 8:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-28 3:20 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-12-28 4:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-28 11:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-14 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-28 8:52 ` Pavel Fedin
2015-12-28 11:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 9:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH V2 00/10] Qemu: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Wei Yang
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