From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: asmetanin@virtuozzo.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>,
"Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH kvm-unit-tests] KVM: x86: add hyperv clock test case
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:53:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56AA397B.4080209@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56AA2AB6.3000802@redhat.com>
On 28/01/2016 15:50, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
>
> On 28/01/2016 15:25, Andrey Smetanin wrote:
>>>
>>> Andrey, the test has a relative error of approximately 3 parts
>>> per million on my machine. In other words it drifts by 3
>>> microseconds every second, which I don't think is acceptable.
>>> The problem is that virtual_tsc_khz is 2593993 while the actual
>>> frequency is more like 2594001 kHz.
>>>
>>> But I have a problem in general with using tsc_khz to compute
>>> the hyperv reference clock scale. The maximum possible accuracy
>>> on a 2.5 GHz machine is around 200 ppb, corresponding to a drift
>>> of about 16 milliseconds per day. Perhaps we could use Linux
>>> (and kvmclock's) timekeeping parameters to derive the tsc_scale
>>> and tsc_offset?
>>
>> Probably need to check the code. But can we just workaround it
>> by host periodic timer with period ~10ms which will issue(by scheduling
>> vcpu KVM_REQ_*) refresh of guest tsc page to prevent drifting?
>
> That would kill performance.
>
> However, after a bit more testing, kvmclock seems to have the same
> issue. The formula to convert the kvmclock scale to the hyper-v one is
>
> tsc_to_nsec_system_mul * 2^(32 + tsc_shift)/100
>
> which on my system gives 0xFCA52ED99999999; that's within 0.1 ppb of
> what the Hyper-V code computes from a 2593993 kHz TSC.
>
> So the patch seems okay, but we need to adjust kvm_guest_time_update to
> support the Hyper-V clock. In kvm_guest_time_update we can compute a
> new scale and offset; if the scale changes, we set sequence to 0. If
> the new offset is such that the clock would go backwards, we set
> sequence to 0.
... No, that doesn't work. The clock would go backwards because the
TIME_REF_COUNT MSR is counting more slowly than the TSC-based clock.
I guess what we can do is to compute the TSC reference page parameters
as soon as the master clock is activated, and use them instead of
get_kernel_ns() to compute the reference count MSR (again if the master
clock is activated). But I'm now a bit wary to enable the hyper-v TSC
reference page without knowing the effects of a divergence between the
two mechanisms. Especially if a migration could lead to a switch from
one to the other and thus to the time going backwards.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-28 15:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-28 14:04 [PATCH kvm-unit-tests] KVM: x86: add hyperv clock test case Paolo Bonzini
2016-01-28 14:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-01-28 14:25 ` Andrey Smetanin
2016-01-28 14:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-01-28 15:53 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-01-28 18:45 ` Roman Kagan
2016-01-28 18:53 ` Roman Kagan
2016-01-28 21:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-01-28 16:22 ` Roman Kagan
2016-02-03 16:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-04 9:33 ` Roman Kagan
2016-02-04 10:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-04 11:12 ` Roman Kagan
2016-04-21 17:01 ` Roman Kagan
2016-04-22 13:32 ` Roman Kagan
2016-04-22 18:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-25 8:47 ` Roman Kagan
2016-04-26 10:34 ` Roman Kagan
2016-05-25 18:33 ` Roman Kagan
2016-05-26 14:47 ` Roman Kagan
2016-05-29 22:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-02-08 15:18 [PATCH 0/4] kvmclock: improve accuracy Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-08 15:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] KVM: x86: rename argument to kvm_set_tsc_khz Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-11 15:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-08 15:18 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: x86: rewrite handling of scaled TSC for kvmclock Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-11 15:23 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-08 15:18 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: x86: pass kvm_get_time_scale arguments in hertz Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-08 15:18 ` [PATCH 4/4] KVM: x86: track actual TSC frequency from the timekeeper struct Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-09 18:41 ` Owen Hofmann
2016-02-10 13:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-16 13:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-16 14:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-16 16:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-19 14:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-02-19 15:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-16 14:00 ` [PATCH 0/4] kvmclock: improve accuracy Marcelo Tosatti
2016-08-31 14:13 [PATCH kvm-unit-tests] KVM: x86: add hyperv clock test case Roman Kagan
2016-09-01 16:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-01 16:07 Paolo Bonzini
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