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From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, fu.wei@linaro.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, wei@redhat.com,
	al.stone@linaro.org, gg@slimlogic.co.uk,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Gather KVM specific information in a structure
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:12:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FB9881.9070209@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160330090621.GG4126@cbox>

On 30/03/16 10:06, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 06:32:15PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> On 29/03/16 18:13, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>> On 03/24/2016 06:53 PM, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>> Introduce a structure which are filled up by the arch timer driver and
>>>> used by the virtual timer in KVM.
>>>>
>>>> The first member of this structure will be the timecounter. More members
>>>> will be added later.
>>>>
>>>> A stub for the new helper isn't introduced because KVM requires the arch
>>>> timer for both ARM64 and ARM32.
>>>>
>>>> The function arch_timer_get_timecounter is kept for the time being and
>>>> will be dropped in a subsequent patch.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
>>>
>>>> Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
>>>> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>>>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>>>>
>>>>      Changes in v3:
>>>>          - Rename the patch
>>>>          - Move the KVM changes and removal of arch_timer_get_timecounter
>>>>          in separate patches.
>>>> ---
>>>>   drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 12 +++++++++---
>>>>   include/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.h |  5 +++++
>>>>   2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c b/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>>>> index 5152b38..62bdfe7 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>>>> @@ -468,11 +468,16 @@ static struct cyclecounter cyclecounter = {
>>>>   	.mask	= CLOCKSOURCE_MASK(56),
>>>>   };
>>>>
>>>> -static struct timecounter timecounter;
>>>> +static struct arch_timer_kvm_info arch_timer_kvm_info;
>>>
>>> This structure is statically defined in this subsystem but not used in 
>>> this file and a couple of a accessors is added to let another subsystem 
>>> to access it.
>>>
>>> That sounds there is something wrong here with the design of the current 
>>> code, virt/phys are mixed.
>>>
>>> It isn't possible to split the virt/phys timer code respectively in 
>>> virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c and drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c ?
>>
>> No, that'd be the wrong thing to do. The kernel uses *either* the virt
>> or phys timer depending on how it has been booted, and both counters are
>> in use.
>>
>> What KVM (or any other hypervisor) needs from the timer subsystem is:
>> - an interrupt (so that it can force a guest exit when the timer fires),
>> - a way to convert the values programmed into the HW into a timer event
>> (which is what the time counter structure is for).
>>
>> That allows the hypervisor to *emulate* a timer for the guest, and
>> that's what virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c is all about. We have a clear
>> separation of what is driving the HW vs what is emulating it, and I'm
>> quite eager to preserve that.
>>
>>> At least, 'struct arch_timer_kvm_info' should belong to 
>>> virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c.
>>
>> At the cost of mandating separate storage in the arm_arch_timer driver.
>> I do not find that much nicer, but if you prefer that, fine by me.
>>
> If arch_timer_kvm_info is declared in virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c, then
> do you want to make it globally accessible and populated by this code or
> make it static to the KVM code and populate it with accessor functions?

That'd be the latter, as I'm really not fond of global data.

> To me the natural thing is that the arch timer driver maintains data
> about the device it drives, and consumers of that data can ask the arch
> timer driver for the details.

That was my approach too, and that's the way the code proposed by Julien
works. Daniel seems to have a different take on it though.

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-30  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-24 17:53 [PATCH v4 0/9] arm64: Add support for KVM with ACPI Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Gather KVM specific information in a structure Julien Grall
2016-03-29 17:13   ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-29 17:32     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-30  9:06       ` Christoffer Dall
2016-03-30  9:12         ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2016-03-30  9:52           ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Extend arch_timer_kvm_info to get the virtual IRQ Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] irqchip/gic-v2: Gather ACPI specific data in a single structure Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] irqchip/gic-v2: Parse and export virtual GIC information Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] irqchip/gic-v3: Gather all ACPI specific data in a single structure Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] irqchip/gic-v3: Parse and export virtual GIC information Julien Grall
2016-04-01 10:13   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-04-01 10:25     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-04-04  9:14     ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] KVM: arm/arm64: arch_timer: Rely on the arch timer to parse the firmware tables Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] KVM: arm/arm64: vgic: Rely on the GIC driver " Julien Grall
2016-04-01 10:32   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Remove arch_timer_get_timecounter Julien Grall
2016-03-29 14:39   ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-29 16:04     ` Julien Grall

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