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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: Shuai Ruan <shuai.ruan@linux.intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, allen.m.kay@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: Add three MSRs to the list of ignored MSRs
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 12:48:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5710C6E1.2020802@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160414162907.GB3350@potion.brq.redhat.com>



On 14/04/2016 18:29, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> I don't see that as a compromise.  igd would fail even if we fixed the
> host side, so we'll have problems regardless of what we do.

Would it?  I suppose that Shuai tested his patch.

> We have a bug, because certain v/f/m/s implies some features (MSRs,
> constant_tsc, ...) and those aren't emulated.
> 
> I do agree that we don't want to fix the bug, either by whitelisting and
> emulating features that makes little sense in virt or by forcing guests
> to adopt new v/f/m/s (the latter option is more reasonable),

Well, the Pentium was the last processor without MSRs. :)  More code
would break if you set f=5 than if you return a bogus value for
MSR_PLATFORM_INFO.  This is the compromise I was referring to.

The only solution is to bug Intel to add CPUID bits even for
non-architectural features.  Then _if_ the CPUID bit is there you use
f/m/s to find the details of the feature.  Intel likes to get feedback
from us and we did provide such feedback.  The problem is that the 2-3
years that pass between giving feedback and getting our hands on the
silicon.

Paolo

> because
> rare occurences of the bug take *much* less work to fix on the guest
> side.  (The only part I'm concerned about is that we don't have a good
> excuse for some guest errors ...)

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-15 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14  9:28 [PATCH] KVM: x86: Add three MSRs to the list of ignored MSRs Shuai Ruan
2016-04-14 13:33 ` Radim Krčmář
2016-04-14 14:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-14 16:29     ` Radim Krčmář
2016-04-15 10:48       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-04-15 14:12         ` Radim Krčmář
     [not found]           ` <20160419092025.GA2651@shuai.ruan@linux.intel.com>
2016-04-19 16:10             ` Kay, Allen M

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